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Author: dementedhut
Posted: February 21, 2009 (06:05 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This isn't about rape; it's about fantasy. RapePlay is about rape just as much as shooting games are "murder simulators", to use an oft-quoted press quote.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: February 22, 2009 (12:35 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm actually genuinely not sure if this review is tongue-in-cheek or not.
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Author: WilltheGreat
Posted: February 23, 2009 (12:15 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
To paraphrase, "This review also doesn't even pretend to place importance on the game".
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: February 23, 2009 (03:52 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah, I'm probably one of the most liberal people here in terms of free-speech and free-form in reviews, and even I think this isn't worth being on our site. It's not a review by anyone's standards. It is a response to Zigfried's review, and while I do think it would have merit on the forums as it raises some interesting (if maybe not very eloquent) points, it has NO BUSINESS being listed as a review. Delete, please.
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Author: Genj
Posted: February 23, 2009 (04:00 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
RapeLay - not about rape.
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Author: dementedhut
Posted: February 23, 2009 (04:00 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I disagree with taking the review down.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: February 23, 2009 (04:16 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'll eleberate on this later, perhaps, but you should all know early on in this that the review is not going anywhere. I'm burnt out on the subject on the moment, but I'll be happy to get back to it after I have this RotW out of the way.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: February 23, 2009 (04:56 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I should be clear that I don't think this is a WRONG review. Personally, I thought the last reaction to that guy who attacked Zigfried's Rapelay review was ridiculous. Some people (you know who you are) had a raging tantrum fit that someone thought that Rapelay wasn't the worst thing to happen to morals in the last decade and cried wolf until the topic got deleted.
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Author: zigfried
Posted: February 23, 2009 (05:10 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I, on the other hand, do think it is a WRONG review. But people are allowed to be wrong, as long as it doesn't screw with others' lives. He doesn't come across as trying to be controversial for controversy's sake, so it's not a trolling review or anything like that. He's just... wrong.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: February 23, 2009 (05:35 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Alright. See how EmP loves me? Deal with this every day, I must. *sigh*
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: February 23, 2009 (05:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The point of a review isn't to comment on whether a game is right or wrong. The point is to give people a clear enough sense of the game so that they know whether or not they would want to play it.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: February 23, 2009 (06:13 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That's my point - he doesn't give a sense of the game. And he argues that Zig's view is wrong.
[Eating EmP's brain] probably isn't a good idea. I mean... He's British, which means his brain's wired for PAL and your eyes are NTSC. - Will |
Author: zippdementia
Posted: February 23, 2009 (07:32 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
If you'd read my other posts, you'd already know that I think this isn't a valid review. And not because of the rape thing. If someone had written a review like this for Alien vs Predator I would've looked at it askance.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: February 23, 2009 (07:45 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I did read your posts. I was clarifying my point because you seemed to mistake my objective approach to the review.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: February 23, 2009 (08:27 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't necessarily disagree with this person's sentiments. I think your anger on the subject of Rape, WQ, has led you to assume that anyone who doesn't call Rapelay the worst thing ever is somehow condoning rape.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: February 23, 2009 (08:46 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The qualm I had with the review was the one mentioned by others in that it seems to more argue with Zig's points than make it's own. That was brought up SECRETLY and Zig didn't seem to take issue with that. That was good enough for me. I would like a more fleshed-out reasoning behind the user's endorsement of this game, obviously, and would call out to that person to expand upon those thoughts, but I have no issue with it being here.
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Author: asscam
Posted: February 23, 2009 (08:48 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This review covers a game about rape. Look at me! I'm an ass! How do you think rape makes me feel?
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: February 23, 2009 (08:52 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I give up. I tried explaining myself, several times, and it's just not working. Anyone reading my posts will get where I'm coming from, I hope, but I'm kind of tired of being misinterpreted. I've looked at this as objectively as possible, so I'm tired of people slamming me for not being objective with this when I've only presented the argumentative flaws in the review. If my readily admitting to not liking the review based on its opinion alone makes this invalid, then screw that. That's like saying other people who argue against the review's logical stipulations alone hate the review only for its opinion, which is stupid.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: February 23, 2009 (09:13 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This review isn't going to win RotWs or gain critical acclaim
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Author: WilltheGreat
Posted: February 23, 2009 (10:27 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"Either, sir, you're an ass or masquerading as one." |
Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: February 23, 2009 (10:38 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Alright. I concede. Suskie explained it better than anyone else here to me why this should stay up, and now I'm satisfied, I guess. I will say, though, that it's odd Zipp and I got into such a pointless discussion in the first place, especially since his initial reaction (at the beginning of the topic) was to agree with me. Maybe he was swayed (much more easily than I, I might add) by posts that came after him, but still. How silly is that?
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Author: darketernal
Posted: February 24, 2009 (01:39 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's an awful review, but I have seen worse on this site whenever a random one pops out on the main page in "Looking for a good read". I heard that there were dark times in this site's history, when crap was posted from various people which was just as bad, if not worse then this "controversial" review. And it stayed on. Let this stay on too then.
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Author: georox
Posted: February 24, 2009 (06:51 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I just want to throw my opinion out here now...
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Author: JANUS2
Posted: February 24, 2009 (07:35 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Fantastic. Your first job is to make sure all XBox games get 10/10.
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Author: darketernal
Posted: February 24, 2009 (09:35 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That would be something that EmP would do.
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