Fallout 3

this is one of those things where I'm hoping I will eat my words and even the big Fallout nerds will love it but as an impartial observer who could care less it seems like it's horrible as a Fallout game and just an apocalyptic Oblivion 2 for the gaming press to slobber over for no particular reason.

I'm still catious.

For what reason?

Reviews flocking in now, having done a bit of searching.

OXM USA - 10/10
PC Gamer France - 93%
PC Gamer UK - 90%
PC Gamer Sweden - 81%

Pretty consistently decent, to be honest, though 81 is much lower than I'd have expected any major mag to give it. General concensus seems to be: as long as you don't spend all your time comparing it with the other two, and treat it as a new game in its own right, then it's ace.

I'm not skeptical at all. I'm picking this one up the day it releases.

I don't trust OXM reviews but the game still looks interesting, even if as Bluberry said it's way closer to Oblivion than the previous Fallout titles.

I'll definitely get the PC version but don't know when I'll get to it. I still have to play Mass Effect and a million other games first

Don't know why anyone cares about Fallout 3 when high quality Wii games like Disney High School Musical 3: Senior Year are just around the corner.

You don't have to look as far as High School Musical 3 to find must-own experiences on Wii, Genj. In fact, don't look to that at all since it's probably going to be a total turd and one of the worst games in the Wii library.

Wii has a growing library of compelling games that people merrily ignore on these and other blogs and forums, games that are just plain enjoyable without being intimidating (or even particularly deep).

Some people want and enjoy those kind of games, and don't have to play slop like High School Musical 3 to appreciate Wii. My library of Wii games is already building into something pretty special, and it's doing so without a particularly huge assortment of the 'mini-game fests' and 'shovelware' and 'low-quality ports' that people say are the only thing the system offers.

Anyway, your snipe at Wii is both ill-informed and irrelevant, since we're here to talk about Fallout 3... which looks pretty great.

I will probably pick up Fallout 3 myself, eventually... when the price drops and I have more money and such. I hope to play it someday, but I won't be reviewing it or anything like that because it's one of those games where I just don't have a sufficient background experience with the classics... or time to play this newest one in the near future.

Wii's trump card:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGnwL0ganu0

I'm inclined to agree with the Wii bating a bit - to the point where I sold mine, due to the stupendous lack of decent stuff since the first few months after launch. I suppose it's just playing to a market which doesn't interest me in the slightest. The PC alone is serving me well at the moment.

I shall be pre-ordering Fallout 3 in the morning.

There's a significant audience out there that doesn't want every game to be a blockbuster or a Western-style experience.

I've always preferred the Japanese style of video game design over the American and European ones, so right there is a HUGE reason I would be interested in Wii. Aside from the Xbox 360 with its string of RPGs that Microsoft is financing to appeal to the Japanese, there's not a whole lot of the gaming I like on the Xbox 360 (or if there is, it's also available on the PlayStation 3, which has more exclusives I care about).

Now, I know that a lot of the games I don't care a whole lot about, or that I prefer to take alongside some Japanese-style games, are all that American and European gamers care about playing. That's fine. I don't ask them to say "Oh, Wii is great," because obviously Wii was very much not designed with them in mind.

At the same time, I'm pretty damn sick of hearing comments about how as a Wii fan, I must be wetting my pants looking forward to Mini-Games 3: The Second Sequel or whatever. There's a hell of a lot more to the system than just that stuff. It's not the stuff making headlines with huge sales, but it's definitely there and it is kickass.

So yeah, your taste in games is such that (from what I can tell) Wii offers little or nothing for you. I'm cool with that. I'm just running out of patience for the ridiculous generalizations like what Genj posted. Not necessarily because of him, but because there are so many ignorant people out there who say that crap and actually think it's true.

It's not.

you've got MadWorld at least.

No More Heroes was cool, too.

Not cool enough to finish, but cool nonetheless.

Only made that post to annoy Venter. Mission accomplished.

you're a total turd.

Moi?

It's not that Wii is catering for a Japanese market - in fact, I'd say it's done more to branch into the west than the Gamecube ever did. It's that it's going for the 'let's get everyone playing games' thing, which is obviously ace, but somewhat undermines the adult market a little. And no, I don't mean adult like that.

The problem with Wii is that it's too focused on bagging the folks who don't usually play games, and as a results, they're completely neglecting the target audience: Us.

That's what Wii haters aren't understanding: they're not the target audience... and that's okay.