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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 01, 2008 (09:54 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've occasionally thought that you're a little too hard on older games, because nothing ages perfectly. Metroid is definitely one of those games that time hasn't been kind to, however, and the game's many grating flaws are examined quite well in this review. Good work.
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Author: Halon
Posted: June 01, 2008 (10:46 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Too generous. My score is more accurate.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: June 01, 2008 (11:15 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Your score isn't accurate, sportsman, because Metroid (while flawed somewhat) can still be a lot of fun even in today's age of glitzy games.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 01, 2008 (11:25 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I actually still kind of enjoy Metroid despite the repetitive level design and horrible save system where you have to die if you want to quit. Maybe I find the masochistic challenge appealing, which would explain why I'd still rather play the original over the hand-holding remake. I can definitely acknowledge that the game has a lot of problems, though.
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (04:34 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Thanks for the comments guys. I'm glad you liked it, Suskie.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (07:48 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The NES to SNES game 'upgrades' had varying degrees of success, I think. Mostly, the newer games did a good job of improving upon the NES originals. I'm thinking of Mario World and Castlevania IV.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: June 02, 2008 (08:06 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I agree and disagree with this review. In 1986 there wasn't anything like Metroid. It would be hard to argue that Metroid wasn't a masterpiece -- a game with multiple endings and free-roaming platforming was was genre defining.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (08:48 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You've never played Kid Icarus, Felix? That didn't stop you from rating it a 1/10. Maybe you should stop making ludicrous comments about games you've obviously never played :)
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (08:59 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
When the heck did I rate Kid Icarus, haha? I'll erase my rating if I did. I honestly don't remember doing that at all.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (09:09 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Games need to be judged with a consciousness of the time frame in which they were released. Expecting ANY game to age perfectly, or to hold up against its sequels and predecessors, is unfair. Games naturally progress and get better over time, so rather than rating older games by today's standards, it's better to take into consideration what a game meant to its audiences when it first came out. You think developers twenty years ago were saying, "Hey, let's make sure this game is so good that in 2008, people will still like it"? Nah, you can't plan ahead like that.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (09:13 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
My best friend looks at Metroid as one of the best games ever. Once, I'd borrowed it from him and liked it for awhile, but the repetition of going through hordes of identical rooms to find items combined with having to completely recharge health after restarting a game caused me to lose interest, so I either enlisted good ol' Justin Bailey or my Game Genie.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (09:30 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This site seems to pride itself on its love for old school gaming. That's great: it's one of the reasons I love this site. But if I'm reading a Dark Fact review, for instance, and he's raving about how a game used to be good and groundbreaking for its time so I should give it a shot... frankly that's not very useful to me. Not as useful as it would be to acknowledge the game's goodness in the context of its time, before going on to give me what I am really reading for: would I like it today.
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Author: Halon
Posted: June 02, 2008 (09:31 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I remember creating maps of the areas with friends when I was probably around eight years old. It came out pretty good; wish I still have it. I'm not sure if I can do something like that today.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (09:37 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Now it looks like I took a shot at Dark Fact. :/
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (10:09 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I wasn’t expecting this review to cause so much discussion. I am pleased. Allow me to offer my rebuttal.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: June 02, 2008 (10:46 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Resident Evil 2 versus 4 is indeed a bad example. Perhaps something like Prince of Persia would be a better one?
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (11:55 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The reason I used RE2 vs. RE4 as an example was because the comment left to accompany Felix's rating made it sound like the only reason he gave the game a low score was because it didn't compare to RE4. I know now that this was an incorrect assumption, but it doesn't change the fact that most people who played RE2 when it originally released loved it.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (11:56 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well said, Jason. I never did get the bash review thing.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (11:59 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'll keep this short.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (12:29 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'd like to point out that I have no opinion on the RE2 vs RE4 'argument', though my WELL SAID JASON VENTER, may have implied that I agreed with the bastard.
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (12:31 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You're a sneaky man, Masters.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (12:32 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm getting the impression, Suskie, that you think certain people on this site are ganging up against you, and that you in turn are unhappy with this site.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: June 02, 2008 (12:58 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't claim to speak for Suskie, Masters, but I know that in general there often seems like a negative vibe going around the site forums lately. It's something that I would like to see diminish.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (01:00 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
When you review a game, it should be on the merits you found in it when you played it. If you think it's fun, give it a high rating and praise it to the heavens. If you thought it stunk, give it a low rating and give us a laundry list of its flaws. Should someone give a classic game that hasn't aged well a couple extra points because it was considered kickass back in the day? "Man, I just thought this game was drab, repetitive and frustrating --- but it was considered the next best thing to sliced bread in 1986, so I have to give it an 8 or so, I guess." Not a good way to establish credibility.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (01:44 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Incidentally, Rob, how old you?
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