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Author: zippdementia
Posted: January 23, 2009 (10:46 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Indeed, Lewis. HG needs MORE of this kind of discussion.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: January 23, 2009 (11:38 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I forgot about that, Rob. Man, Zig has bad taste. :
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Author: Halon
Posted: January 23, 2009 (11:40 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Haha Suskie's last paragraph of his first post is spot on. Lewis often clashes with people for praising every single game and he finally writes a bash review and this happens. Poor guy can't win here.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: January 23, 2009 (02:18 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I love this 'review'.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: January 23, 2009 (02:21 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Does HG have an "official word"?
For us. For them. For you. |
Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: January 23, 2009 (04:09 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, I'm tired of talking and my points don't seem to be contributing much anyway, so I'm just going to say a few more things:
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Author: hmd
Posted: January 23, 2009 (05:15 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
PROTIP: There's a difference between, "hmm I kind of don't like this game" versus the dozens of "this game is for gay queer nintendo fans who enjoy the taste of transexual penis p.s: fag" that are probably still hanging around this sites' archives.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: January 23, 2009 (09:50 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I didn't imagine the whole site would be here to talk about this review. With my left hand typing, my biggest criticisim is this. I feel this is the kind of dismissive review in which 80% of it is spent describing a game system the reviewer doesn't like, not= the particular game itself. You even get a timekeeping alert to the fact in this review at the 'Sigh. Calm. Evaluate.' line, which falls at the 80% mark. Was this much of a review of RE rebirth? I don't think so. Was it a good personal discourse about your hatred of older mode of survival horror? Yes. As such, is this really the appropriate venue for it? I'm not sure. It feels more like blog fodder.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: January 23, 2009 (10:47 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
for those as stimulated by the discussion as was said, have a look here:
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: January 23, 2009 (11:07 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I feel this is the kind of dismissive review in which 80% of it is spent describing a game system the reviewer doesn't like, not= the particular game itself.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: January 23, 2009 (11:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm sure Lewis wrote this review knowing that plenty of people would disagree with him, and that's perfectly fine. Where I start getting ticked is when those same people start questioning the validity of his review and Lewis's authority in penning it.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: January 24, 2009 (12:55 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Much more interesting a topic than whether or not Lewis' review is good or not is the discussion about objectivity in a review. Let's have more of that.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: January 24, 2009 (03:00 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This big topic didn't develop for nothing. Many people felt the review was somehow unreasonable or we wouldn't all be here.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: January 24, 2009 (05:35 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"I could summarise this review unkindly into, 'Resident Evil sucks because I hate this genre, for these reasons.' It's a kind of misdirective approach I don't like in what we call reviewing, where any genre is concerned. I hate point and clickers but I still address particularly what is in front of me if I try one, and don't rely on my criticisms of an entire mode as being a review of that game. This review could probably get to that way with rewriting, but that's where it'd go if we subscribed to my lines in the sand."
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Author: Lewis
Posted: January 24, 2009 (03:44 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Oh, and by the way.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: January 24, 2009 (06:55 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
'My thought on 'objective reviewing' is that it serves absolutely no purpose to anyone.'
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Author: threetimes
Posted: January 24, 2009 (07:19 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Quote: I have no methodology for choosing a review score. I certainly don’t think about it much. Your gut feeling (after either beating the game or the game beating you) is more accurate than whatever you might come up with after careful consideration."
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Author: Suskie
Posted: January 24, 2009 (10:21 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
If we're supposed to judge games by what they mean to accomplish, then I'm wondering why Killer7 didn't get perfect scores across the board. Just because developers have achieved what they set out to do doesn't mean that everyone will agree with said goals. And who's to say what any game means to accomplish, anyway? From what I've heard, the guys who made Too Human think their game is pretty awesome.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: January 24, 2009 (10:46 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm glad you're posting again, Suskie. As usual, your posts are right on target.
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Author: Halon
Posted: January 25, 2009 (12:17 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This reminds me of that article on Segabastard a while back about the Twisted Metal/God of War creator (can't remember his name ATM) crying over his car mini-game scoring in the 6-range on Gamespot because he didn't set out to make a 10/10 game so it shouldn't be judged that way. He set out to make a mediocre game and since it is a mediocre game it should receive a 10!
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: January 25, 2009 (12:23 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't remember the article, but you're probably thinking of the very vocal David Jaffe. If he made a mini-game collection that was worth 10/10 (such an occurrence is not impossible) and then a bunch of action and FPS fans in the media rated it down because there wasn't enough shooting or sword slashing, then he has a point.
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Author: WilltheGreat
Posted: January 25, 2009 (12:25 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Posting in a thread with Suskie.
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Author: bluberry
Posted: January 25, 2009 (12:35 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
have you been lurking for months?
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Author: Lewis
Posted: January 25, 2009 (01:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Anyone got a link to that Gamespot review?
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Author: JANUS2
Posted: January 25, 2009 (02:03 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This topic is going round in circles.
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