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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: October 30, 2008 (10:34 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Kickin' review there. You did a good job of not only expressing the differences between this version and the PC version, but also the differences between this game and the average NES console RPG. If someone's not familiar with the PC version and reads your line about how fights are simplified here.....and then looks at the second screenshot to see a party fighting two ogres, three orc captains, four hobgoblins and seven orcs (and, yes, the game's engraved in my mind enough to recognize all those sprites), that will blow their mind.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: October 30, 2008 (08:16 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'll admit I'm very unfamiliar with this series... or anything modeled off of D&D in general. I think out of all those games you mentioned, the only one I played or even seen was Neverwinter Nights.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: October 30, 2008 (08:49 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
WQ:
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: October 30, 2008 (09:30 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ah. That makes sense.
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Author: WilltheGreat
Posted: October 31, 2008 (01:41 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
God, THAC0 was retarded; the only good thing it had going for it was a catchy acronym. I honestly don't know why they didn't come up with 3E's armour mechanics sooner.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: October 31, 2008 (03:36 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Wasn't the point of THACO just to save you trips to the printed tables? I mean I loved the tables anyway. My youth was spent consulting the result tables of TSR games, D+D and AD+D amongst them. But if you knew your THACO, you could just do a quick bit of math in your head after you heard what the target's AC was and know what you had to roll to hit. Still, the THACO concept came too late in my life to stick.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: November 02, 2008 (05:37 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Just for clarification:
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 13, 2012 (10:04 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
THACO was always a little confusing, but I liked it. Somehow it made me feel like I was doing something archaic and magical when I played. I'm one of the few people I know who still likes the old 2nd edition rules, though. I haven't tried 4th edition, I hear it's alright!
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Author: dagoss
Posted: July 13, 2012 (01:25 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'd don't know if I'd commit to saying it's "better," but I prefer the NES version. The PC version has some things going against it for me:
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 13, 2012 (01:45 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I find that most people who like PC versions of games much at all will invariably recommend the PC version over the NES version, if a game hit both platforms, but I will almost invariably prefer the NES version. I love Ultima: Quest of the Avatar on the NES, for instance, thanks largely to its streamlined interface (plus I actually prefer the visuals), but apparently that makes me a total rube. Yet when I tried to play the PC version that EA released for free (you just need DOSbox), I couldn't get into it at all. And I hear vicious things about Deja Vu (NES) being insultingly bad, but I actually had tremendous fun with that game and so did one of my friends who borrowed it from me.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 13, 2012 (07:23 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, some ports don't quite do it. Like, Maniac Mansion is still a great game on the NES but you lose a lot of details from the PC version and controlling the commands with a mouse was far easier then a controller. But it's good to hear that this was better!
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Author: dagoss
Posted: September 11, 2012 (05:31 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I just finished replaying this game for the uptenth time, and I mean finished. No quest was left undone; no character did not reach their max levels.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: September 11, 2012 (09:19 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I agree about the Kobald King gauntlet being the roughest part. Three straight battles against large forces including trolls. If you add optional challenges, I'd include clearing the Textile House just because of how annoying it is to run around that place fighting tons of things that can poison/level-drain you until you've fought enough battles to get the pittance of experience the Phlan people decide that's worth.
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Author: Putty
Posted: September 11, 2012 (11:39 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Thac0 is a neat example of game development. In 1e D+D it wasn't really used in any way except to generate tables. So, most of the things you did involved looking at tables instead of calculating. By 2e, the tables were removed and replaced with a formula. The loss of the reference displayed the totally bizarre calculation all those old wargamers were doing.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: September 11, 2012 (05:55 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
AD&D rules always made more sense to me for table-top games than 3e. I could never shake the feeling that 3e was designed with video games not actual D&D in mind, but maybe that's just me...
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: September 11, 2012 (09:00 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
No, it's not just you. I thought THACO was perfectly fine, though I'm not sure it's functionally any different from Armor class.
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