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Author: Lewis
Posted: October 02, 2008 (02:20 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I just think Doom 3 is so clearly more than a 2. I think it's rather average, certainly - as I've said before, I'd probably go with a 6 - but there are far worse games I've given 3s and 4s to... it seems a little harsh for the sake of it, to me.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: October 02, 2008 (05:21 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I agree. A score that low should be reserved for games that are literally unplayable due to bugs and broken design (e.g. Over the Road Racing, Super Man 64, etc). Doom 3, while not perfect, isn't even close to such titles. Granted, everyone has their biases, but it probably isn't seemly for a staff review to wear them so openly.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: October 02, 2008 (06:28 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
We already have a Doom 3 bash review up that scores this game a whopping one point more than mine. I see how it is; attack the EmP.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: October 02, 2008 (07:22 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think it's pointless cosmetics-first-gameplay-last software at its worst
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Author: bluberry
Posted: October 02, 2008 (08:09 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I agree, the score is the most important part of the review and EmP's score is stupid, Doom 3 deserves a 3.01 or possibly a (2 - 7i).
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Author: Lewis
Posted: October 02, 2008 (08:40 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Oh it's not the "importance of scores" debate again, it really isn't.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: October 02, 2008 (08:40 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
We already have a Doom 3 bash review up that scores this game a whopping one point more than mine.
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Author: Halon
Posted: October 02, 2008 (09:27 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I agreed with most of that review except for the score. I was thinking 4 or 5 until I remembered it was an EmP Doom 3 review and then looked at the score.
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Author: dragoon_of_infinity
Posted: October 02, 2008 (10:15 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Doom 3 is worthy of a 2 or a 3 simply because IDDQD and IDKFA aren't the cheats anymore. I actually had to look the codes up online when I wanted to become invincible and level skip passed all the drivel at the beginning. What a sham.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: October 02, 2008 (10:20 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"...this is all they could come up with?"
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Author: JANUS2
Posted: October 02, 2008 (11:26 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think a 2 makes sense in the context of the review. It seems to me that Emp is arguing that Doom 3 is fundamentally broken because of the way it's set up. The tedious darkness, the restrictive presence of the flashlight, and the lack of foes only allows for fear that is derived from cheap scare tactics. This makes it a shallow and mediocre experience. To say all this and then turn around and give it a 5 would undermine Emp's argument. Arguing whether it should be a 3 or a 4 is also irrelevant because both scores basically come to the same conclusion, that Doom 3 is heavily flawed.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: October 02, 2008 (11:40 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Janus to the rescue!
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: October 02, 2008 (11:41 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I understood the score from the context of the review. There was total contempt at how Doom 3 handled classic monsters and how they went from a shoot-em-tha-fuck-up mindset to a "spooky" dark corridors one.
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Author: JANUS2
Posted: October 02, 2008 (11:44 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
haha, call it my national pride.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: October 02, 2008 (11:45 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah... I think Janus put it right. Honestly, I thought the review was fine when I read / skimmed through it last night. It made perfect sense the way it was argued, and I honestly don't see what all this pointless fussing about the freaking score is about. Seriously; if he'd given it between a 3 and a 5, this topic never would've even been made, probably. I find this kind of sad - that no one's focusing on the good elements of the review.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: October 03, 2008 (05:02 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I read the score in the context of the review, and when people are angry at a game and score low, I guess the lowness of score is often a gauge of their emotional piss-offedness. Like Janus was saying, down in the 2-4 region, it's all bad. I had no problem coming to a 2 at the end of emp's review.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: October 05, 2008 (03:11 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Sentence of the ever:
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: October 05, 2008 (04:08 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Some people dislike the review more than you:
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Author: Halon
Posted: October 05, 2008 (06:50 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Technically you scored the game 1/5, NOT 2/5.
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Author: Genj
Posted: October 05, 2008 (07:28 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
why are u even talking about a game that is almost five years old? its POINTLESS!!!! focus on gears of war 2
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Author: georox
Posted: October 05, 2008 (10:19 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Geo's Doom 3 review -
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Author: bluberry
Posted: October 25, 2008 (03:33 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I read the introduction and immediately knew where the review was going. You know, if I expected every Doom game to be as good as Doom II, I'd hate the series. If your worship of Doom II is so rabid that you'll allow your disappointment in the Xbox game to convince you they're bad, fine, but don't act like this opinion is the norm. Your intro is laughable because it runs through the history of the Doom series as if it's universally accepted that all of the post-Doom II games sucked, which is a complete falsehood. If I'd begun my DMC4 review by saying, "Well, we all know that DMC3 was much worse than DMC1, but that's not a factor here," people would just shake their heads and chuckle.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: October 25, 2008 (03:37 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You are right. Video game reviewing is no place for personal and unique opinions. After checking Gamerankings.com, I have seen that the correct score to give this title is between 7-9/10. I feel like I have let you, this website and the entire internet down by not simply rehashing the unconformed thoughts of the masses. But, most of all, I have let myself down.
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Author: bluberry
Posted: October 25, 2008 (03:49 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
When you write reviews like this, Gary, they don't contribute anything positive to the site. It's just an incredulous opinion, and we're just a site that is apparently only too happy to accept this sort of material out of the fear that one horrible review for a game is better than no review.
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: October 25, 2008 (03:53 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
What great successes you two will become.
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