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Author: dagoss
Posted: July 27, 2012 (06:50 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I never really thought of this game as being "bigger" in the sense of bigger enemies and bosses, but now that I think about it, you're right; it <
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 27, 2012 (10:06 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hey, Dagoss, thanks for reading! Did you mean to type something more after your first sentence?
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 27, 2012 (10:50 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Dagoss: I did end up dropping one point off the doc robots, after thinking about your points on them. That drops the game by one more point, too.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 27, 2012 (11:17 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The Doc Robot stages are one of the worst points in the game, basically just reworked (and cheaper) versions of the familiar standard stages (before you even count the cheap boss battles that don't even feature the proper sprites). Talk about filler! They specifically were one of the things I expected you to not like about Mega Man 3, so it was a surprise to see you singling them out for praise.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 27, 2012 (11:55 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Actually, I think we might connect on Mega Man 4, having checked out your review for it and having already written half of mine.
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: July 28, 2012 (02:18 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm enjoying these reviews. I have to enjoy Mega Man games vicariously because I get too annoyed while playing them myself.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 28, 2012 (07:50 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hah! I can completely understand that. I would love to see one of your video reviews on a mega man game, tho.
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: July 29, 2012 (03:31 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I tried playing MM 2 and 3 tonight actually, and they both drove me mad. I find them both equally cheap and dickish.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 29, 2012 (03:41 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I liked Mega Man 9, but I agree that it's more difficult than 2 and 3 were. It was modeled after Mega Man 1, though, so what was I really expecting? I still like the game more than 1, at any rate.
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: July 30, 2012 (03:23 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm not certain from memory. Cloud Man perhaps? I'm not sure if it's a particularly tough jump or just my lack of Mega Man skills, but I haven't had that much trouble even with MM1.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 30, 2012 (01:09 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Zipp: Now you've mentioned it, I'm actually tempted to record a 'Let's Fail At' series. Could be funny/infuriating.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: July 30, 2012 (01:12 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Sam, what level is in the Mega Man 9 demo? I haven't played enough Mega Man 9 (basically I just beat it once and fooled around with a few levels for fun after that) to remember which one might have a tricky first jump. Now you've got me curious!
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 30, 2012 (01:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ah. Concrete Man is one of the more difficult stages, as I recall. If it's the one I'm thinking of, getting through it was definitely a matter of concentrating and definitely paying attention to enemy patterns and such.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: July 30, 2012 (02:15 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
All of the Mega Man games are hard. None of them are cheap.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 30, 2012 (04:50 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
All of the Mega Man games are hard. Some of them are sheep, though.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: July 30, 2012 (05:38 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
All of the Mega Man games are hard. Some of them are sheep, though.
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: July 31, 2012 (03:26 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It was Concrete Man (Cloud Man is in MM7)
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Author: Roto13
Posted: July 31, 2012 (05:10 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Difficult and cheap are not the same thing. There's no such thing as an unavoidable death in Mega Man, or any obstacles you need ESP to be able to deal with. Even Quick Man's stage exposes you to the laser beams in a relatively easy room before hitting you with the hard parts.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 31, 2012 (05:25 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
There's no such thing as an unavoidable death in Mega Man, or any obstacles you need ESP to be able to deal with
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: July 31, 2012 (05:27 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I disagree too. Mega Man is designed to try and catch you out in petty, sneaky ways, in the same sort of vein as more recent asshole games like Super Meat Boy. It's not being challenging, it's being a dick.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 31, 2012 (08:14 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think we've reached the point where the argument has become pointless. There's no point in saying "it's cheap" and "no it's not" and going back and forth from there when we can't even agree on what constitutes 'cheap' in the first place! The argument is a straw man and he's barely able to stand at this point, let alone scare away any crows.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: July 31, 2012 (10:07 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
There are whole segments in Mega Man where you have to fall on the right or left side of the screen and, if you choose wrong, you die.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 31, 2012 (10:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Dude, check it. Right at the beginning:
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 31, 2012 (11:21 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Zipp, that shaft is easily survived. You fall and steer left or right just slightly. There's plenty of time to react to each set of spikes, as evidenced in the video. As far as I can recall, I've never died in that shaft--even on my first time through it--unless I was doing so on purpose (because that stage is a perfect place to farm energy tanks).
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: August 01, 2012 (12:00 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's a perfect example of what I was talking about. The shaft is easily survived if you know the pattern, which they do. If you go right at the first junction, you die instantly. There is no chance to dodge, even if you know what's coming. The other dodges are easier, but you still have to know what's coming. If you don't, and pick the wrong course by luck, you will die before you have a chance to register fully what's on the screen. I know, because I died here several times before I knew what was on the coming screen. It's not like I'm making this stuff up. What would be the point?
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