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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 19, 2012 (08:04 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Great review, Rob. To be fair, I always enjoyed the idea of leveling up what you used. It's sort've the Rune Quest system (which later formed the basis for the Elder Scrolls system). But yeah, I also know of its potential abuses. I actually think I may own the game for the GBA; my girlfriend in college had a copy.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 19, 2012 (10:05 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I have the PSX and PSP versions, which I believe both fixed some of the balance issues Rob noted in his review. I really need to spend some time playing through to the end of some of the early FF titles I haven't completed. I don't have nearly as much personal experience with 2-5 as I would like to have. Then I'm mostly good except for 11 and 12...
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Author: dagoss
Posted: July 20, 2012 (04:53 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
FF2 actually came out before the first SaGa game; it wasn't based on SaGa's system, it was the other way around. Minor point, but it's significant.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 20, 2012 (09:07 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I was thinking the same thing, dagoss (about FF2 being the first to employ the stat increases based on specific type of action, I mean). I just wasn't sure if FF2 came before SaGa. I thought it did, but for all I knew, there was some obscure SaGa NES title and the series didn't actually begin on the SNES the way I remembered. If that were the case, i figured Rob would likely be more hip to it than I would. After all, he's the guy reviewing a Famicom title!
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 20, 2012 (03:51 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ugh. SaGa.
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Author: espiga
Posted: July 20, 2012 (04:26 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Perspective time!
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: July 24, 2012 (11:07 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Wow. The thought that FF2 came before ANY of the SaGa games did come as news to me. I knew it was out before the Romancing Saga games, but I guess I figured it would have come out before at least the first Final Fantasy Legend. Probably just because that was GB (before Color) and so damn primitive. So thanks for that catch. Review lightly altered in light of that.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 24, 2012 (01:07 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Remember that when Nintendo pushed for the localization of Final Fantasy here in the United States, the JRPG was already becoming a big deal overseas. Final Fantasy II hit the Famicom in 1988, and the first Final Fantasy made it to North America in 1990 (shortly after the release of Final Fantasy III in Japan).
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Author: dagoss
Posted: July 24, 2012 (04:25 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
According this type article, there was a rough prototype of a FF2 localization that surfaced awhile ago:
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 24, 2012 (05:17 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hm? FF2 was rereleased on the GBA in North America.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 24, 2012 (05:23 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Zipp, that was a whole separate localization effort, and "re-released" is the wrong phrase because it was never released here the first time. When Square-Enix reworked the first two games in the series for PlayStation, they made fresh localization efforts, changed up some of the game mechanics, and released the result in North America. Then they ported that effort to the GBA down the road, and then later they released the two games as separate titles for the PSP. So Final Fantasy II has definitely been released in North America, but not in 8-bit form.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: July 25, 2012 (08:48 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah, I'd call that game a remake, since it was esentially rebuilt from the ground-up. The FF1 game for PSX/GBA plays like an entirely different game. FF2 wasn't as drastically different, but still different (and still just as abusable...).
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: July 25, 2012 (11:25 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah, I haven't played the GBA FF 1-2 cart, but from asking people here about it, I got the idea that both games were altered a good bit to make them more accessible to more modern gamers who weren't raised on the idea that a person SHOULD BY GOD HAVE TO GRIND FOR 5 HOURS in order to move more than three steps away from the first town.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 25, 2012 (12:17 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't know about FF2, but I will say I disliked the FF1 changes. They took out daily spell amounts and replaced it with damn mp! It totally destroys the challenge of the game, since the big balancing aspect of magic in the first one was that you could only use it a few times before you had to go back to town to recharge it. With mp, and then ether on top of that, you can just spam spells, making red wizards the most powerful character in the game.
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