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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 13, 2012 (07:16 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
GTA has almost gone too complex for me. I preferred the style of GTA:3 and, more recently, GTA: Chinatown, where the focus was on car chases, running people down in cars, and blowing shit up. As time progressed it went from that to being a dating sim/billiards arcade/third person shooter with the occasional stealth element. I don't think it was a great move for the series. Is there anyone out there who truly enjoyed dating in GTA:IV? What about the fact that you had to drive slowly and obey the rules of the road with certain girls? Was that fun for anyone?
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Author: jerec
Posted: July 13, 2012 (07:23 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I could never get into IV, either. Neediest bunch of friends ever. You try to do more than 2 missions in a row and you end up neglecting your friends.
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Author: JonDavila
Posted: July 17, 2012 (06:09 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I actually enjoyed GTAIV. The needy friends were somewhat bothersome, but it provoked this feeling of guilt within me if I ignored them. It led to me to, of course, hang out with them, and in turn, I started to kind of care about them. That's why later on in the game, spoiler when your brother gets killed, it kind of hurt me. I admire their attempt at trying to get us to connect with the game's characters in that manner, though I recognize it may have been hit or miss for the most part.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 17, 2012 (09:14 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
No, you weren't forced, but I did feel more pressure than in other GTA games. It was the whole seriousness of the situation. I really disliked how most missions started with just driving to the location while guys chatted in the car. It was a far cry from the "let's get started" missions of GTA III (including Vice City and San Andreas) where you were pretty much out the gate from the start... especially in GTA: 3 and Vice City.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 17, 2012 (09:59 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The obvious goal with each new GTA is to more closely simulate life--and yes, that includes things like going on dates--so that the scenes of mayhem and violence have more natural impact without having to resort to stupid and artificial things like geysers of blood every time you take out a rival. The fact is that many people do play the games for their story, so that aspect isn't something we can expect to see go away from the series. And really, there's not much harm to it because the cop chases and such can still happen basically any time you like. There's no mandate saying you have to complete the game. You can just screw around with it if the chases and such are all you want (which is precisely what I tend to do with GTA games, by the way).
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 17, 2012 (11:08 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm just explaining was why I no longer enjoy GTA games. At one point playing the game and enjoying the game were the same thing to me. But with GTA:IV I began to feel that enjoying the game meant doing something entirely different from the missions and taking advantage of the content that had been created for me.
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Author: zigfried
Posted: July 17, 2012 (07:11 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The first problem with GTA becoming progressively more life-like is that the GTA series was good because it wasn't life-like. It was outrageous, over-the-top, and fun. We're not getting that fun game anymore.
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Author: JoeTheDestroyer (Mod)
Posted: July 18, 2012 (11:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The first problem with GTA becoming progressively more life-like is that the GTA series was good because it wasn't life-like. It was outrageous, over-the-top, and fun. We're not getting that fun game anymore.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: July 19, 2012 (02:02 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
While I do think the GTA series is on the wrong path with the life simulator approach (as Zig said, it's directly at odds with much of what the series became popular for), people overhype that aspect of GTAIV to ludicrous degrees. It's like making a big deal about the mining in Mass Effect 2. If you don't like it, then you can always just not do it.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 19, 2012 (09:46 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Videogames are meant to be larger than life. When GTA4 tried to be like life, it was instead much, much less.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: July 19, 2012 (11:35 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I simply can't agree with that standpoint. Games aren't at the point yet where they can perfectly present a credible real world, sure, but they're getting closer and they'll never get there if developers don't keep pushing themselves with development for ambitious games like the Grand Theft Auto series. It's a perfect candidate for such ambitions.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 19, 2012 (11:54 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That's not what the sentiment I'm agreeing with at all, nor is it what I think Zig is arguing (though I'll let him speak for himself). What I'm saying is that I play games to experience a reality I cannot experience in life.
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Author: JoeTheDestroyer (Mod)
Posted: July 19, 2012 (12:49 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I see realism as a device. I think developers are welcome to try their hand at it, but that doesn't mean I'll necessarily enjoy it. If it actually adds something to the game (like challenge), then I don't necessarily mind it. However, nine times out of ten I'll play something ridiculous over something real. My only concern is developers thinking they have to add realism to every game.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: July 19, 2012 (04:15 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Here's an example that I know not everyone will like, but let's chat about Heavy Rain....
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Author: zigfried
Posted: July 19, 2012 (05:13 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
But in my opinion, the "Realistic games don't get everything perfect yet and thus shouldn't happen" argument simply doesn't hold water.
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