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Author: JujuZombie
Posted: May 29, 2012 (07:29 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I loved FFVIII, and I thought the junction system was great, if you take time to mess with it. Too bad that you can only really do anything cool with it in the end of the game, when by then just casting Meltdown saves so much time and effort...good review though, and yeah, weapon magazines sucked. As an FF fan, I do indeed, love collecting weapons and armor and crap.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 29, 2012 (07:46 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I hated FFVIII for years until... well, three weeks ago. On this playthrough I just "got it" for once and started loving it. I do think the draw system is very weak and the worst system in any FF game, while at the same time I do enjoy the junction system. It's just that drawing means you have to spend hours of battles just hitting the same draw command over and over. If it had been a strategical thing, such as defeating enemies in certain ways to recieve magic at the end of battle, now THAT would have been awesome and very engaging. As is, it feels like a really slapped-on idea that wasn't thought through fully.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: May 30, 2012 (12:58 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Final Fantasy VIII is a game that puts a lot of people off by being so different, but once it finally clicks and you finally understand the Junctioning and GF systems, it's really pretty great.
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Author: bbbmoney
Posted: May 30, 2012 (01:42 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Tried this game multiple times when I was younger, I honestly think I just wasn't intelligent enough to play it properly. GFs were powerful so I would use those, but their animations were soooooo long. I always got super bored with the game, and dropped it 2-3 times when the story went off the deep end around the 3rd disc.
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Author: Sise-Neg
Posted: May 30, 2012 (03:28 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I honestly consider FFVIII to be one of the most godawful JRPGs of all time. Hated the bland cast of unlikable characters with no redeeming qualities, hated the half-assed love story and the most ridiculous plot twist in the FF series, hated the boring battle system (who can have any fun drawing magic for hours?), etc.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: May 30, 2012 (04:08 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I was about to break this thread's positivity in half, and then Sise-Neg did the job for me. Though I want to add that you could win any battle (except one) by just spamming summons, since there was no cost for using them. So the game was broken and piss easy on top of being just generally bad.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 30, 2012 (04:35 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I never use summons. The animations are so fucking boring.
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Author: bbbmoney
Posted: May 30, 2012 (05:33 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The summons were awful to use but they were so effective. You had to think of different ways to make the battles enjoyable, lol. I don't think that part of the game can be excused.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 30, 2012 (07:20 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've heard Vagrant Story was excellent, but have yet to try it out. I'm working my way through the old hitman titles right now.
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Author: darketernal
Posted: May 30, 2012 (07:25 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
For me, the worst Final Fantasy. Summons were tediously long to summon, the draw system is something that I couldn't see concocted again by the most depraved of mind's and the characters for the most part are very forgettable. Spoony's "let's play" was pretty spot on for it.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: May 31, 2012 (04:28 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I thought FFVIII was okay. The cast were okay, the system was okay. It just kinda... exists. Liked Seifer as a typical "fate made me this way" Square villian, and I love poking fun at the whole orphanage twist.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: May 31, 2012 (09:38 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
As for games mentioned prominently here:
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Author: bbbmoney
Posted: May 31, 2012 (09:49 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think every PSX FF game suffered heavily from not understanding how to pace the traditional system in a 3d environment. Many parts of those games are hugely archaic for no good reason, it wasn't until FFX that the formula finally made sense again, to me anyways.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 31, 2012 (10:25 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Holdthephone: It's nice to take a break from reading and responding to a review like an editor and reading and responding to it like a normal person.
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Author: bbbmoney
Posted: May 31, 2012 (11:17 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Haha I know, was just chuckling to myself.
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Author: threetimes
Posted: June 01, 2012 (07:13 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I had a hate/love relationship with FF8. Hated it at first, and sold it on, and then decided to try it again and I loved it. I "got" the junctioning, dedicated myself to drawing endless magic so I could beef up the party and spent ages fiddling around with it all. And not to mention the AWESOME triple triad which is the best mini-game ever made, and the music, the characters, the wonderful world map, chasing down all the summons. It's a fantastic game. Recently watched a let's play of the whole thing which rekindled the love.
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Author: jerec
Posted: June 01, 2012 (04:07 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I hated it at first, playing it right after finishing FF7. Some way in I just skipped to FF9. I tried again a couple of times, but then I played the game without ever summoning anything. Suddenly the game seemed a lot better - and it seems your SeeD level goes up a lot faster if you don't summon, so you get more gil. I had a kick ass party that was junctioned perfectly by the end of the game and I managed to complete all the extra bosses and stuff.
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Author: Genj
Posted: June 02, 2012 (07:01 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
A lot of people it seems tend to ignore random encounters due to FF8's scaled enemies & bosses and spam GFs ad naseum. If you play FF8 this way, it's a long, tedious boring piece of shit. Using the Junction system to your advantage is way better. You want to fight random encounters to earn AP and learn skills from your GFs. You also want to junction your magic to things like physical attacks and magic to quickly beat down enemies rather than let them kick the shit out of you while to sit there waiting for a summon.
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Author: JoeTheDestroyer (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2012 (12:21 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I liked FFVIII a lot when I first played, but will probably not like it as much when I go back to replay it. That also happened to me with FFVII. I didn't enjoy it as much on my last playthrough as I did in 1997 when I first played the game.
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