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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 04, 2012 (10:24 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Regardless, this is still the game they released an entire other component for in order to make it easier to play.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: May 04, 2012 (10:29 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Which I stopped using long before I started beating levels on 9.0.
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Author: TryHard
Posted: May 04, 2012 (12:13 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I firmly believe that the customer is always right, so you can imagine how it disappoints me to see an alleged professional like Sakurai telling people that they're just doing it wrong.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: May 04, 2012 (12:27 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The customer isn't always right. Anyone who has dealt with any number of customers knows this. The trick is to not make the customer feel like an idiot when you point out the 50 million ways that he's wrong.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 04, 2012 (04:28 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I like waving the wii stick around like a maniac. To me, it was more immersive that way. But I took full responsibility when I whacked my girlfriend unconscious accidentally. I didn't blame Nintendo.
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Author: yamishuryou
Posted: May 04, 2012 (11:21 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You knocked your girlfriend unconscious? That must have been awkward.
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Author: goatx3
Posted: May 04, 2012 (11:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've worked in retail and had customers come in and try to haggle with me on the price of something, throwing out--seriously, not as a joke--that "the customer is always right."
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 05, 2012 (12:15 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You knocked your girlfriend unconscious? That must have been awkward.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: May 05, 2012 (05:32 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
'Cause she's inflatable? :P
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Author: zigfried
Posted: May 05, 2012 (08:03 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Players have solved Sakurai's mistake by placing homemade pads over the face buttons.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: May 05, 2012 (10:34 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
'Cause she's inflatable? :P
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: May 05, 2012 (12:14 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Goat, I'm not going to PAX this year (nor have I attended during any previous years), but maybe I'll go there next year. It's hard to tell. All I really know is that this year is out.
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Author: zigfried
Posted: May 05, 2012 (01:08 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm not suggesting the circle pad pro be required, but it absolutely should have been an option for the deathmatch mode.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: May 05, 2012 (01:45 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Sakurai's rationale is essentially the same as a fighting game developer saying: "Leftward-facing Z-motions are too easy to perform with a joystick. So, even though our game uses lots of Z-motions, we're going to force everyone to play with the D-pad when having local or online matches."
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Author: zigfried
Posted: May 05, 2012 (02:12 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
My comparison was between D-pad and joystick, not between D-pad and analog.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: May 05, 2012 (02:30 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's still not the same thing, though. Yes, Nintendo would have known that its own peripheral was in development, even though that peripheral would have begun development long after Kid Icarus development began (remember that Kid Icarus was originally supposed to launch alongside the system, before the Circle Pad was even announced).
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Author: zigfried
Posted: May 05, 2012 (06:19 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
There's no such thing as a perfect parallel, although I still think it's a pretty good one. My point was about the rationale ("leveling the playing field"), not about the technical details involved in excluding controllers.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: May 06, 2012 (06:36 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
If you're using a circle pad pro with this game, the uncomfortableness goes away anyway with the added size making the "need" for dual-stick mode moot.
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