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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 19, 2012 (07:51 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It is, if nothing else, among the most memorable video game series out there and very unique. That's one thing that's both great and terrible about the Metal Gear Solid series, it's uniqueness. Great, because you can't scratch that itch with any other game. Terrible, because when they eff it up, like they seem to do with every even numbered game in the series, it's just sad.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: March 19, 2012 (08:19 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The most wonderful things about MGS2 are the things nobody seems to actually get and be able to appreciate. It's kind of sad.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 19, 2012 (10:02 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I went back and played it recently. I still enjoy all the rampant symbolism. I enjoy less that characters constantly point out that symbolism as if I'm somehow both blind and have the exposure level of a four year old. And I'm sorry, but Raiden just sucks in that game. It has nothing to do with the fact that he's not Snake and more to do with the fact that he's more of a pansy than Lester the Unlikely.
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Author: bbbmoney
Posted: March 19, 2012 (10:15 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I strongly prefer the Raiden in MGS2, it's a shame Kojima felt he had to destroy a character because of the backlash (which really stemmed from lack of Snake, and how Raiden wasn't like him).
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Author: JoeTheDestroyer (Mod)
Posted: March 20, 2012 (12:11 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I actually liked MGS2. Maybe I wasn't the biggest fan of Raiden, but the game as a whole was enjoyable.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 20, 2012 (09:13 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I agree, holdphone, that Raiden became really dumb and pointless in MGS4, but his role in MGS2 was no less meaningless. I know what Kojima was going for... he was going for an innocent soldier, the kind of soldier that actually had emotions and reactions to his situation, to counter Snake's cold cynicism and monotone acceptance of his role. It was a cool concept but Hideo's writing skills (or the writing skills of his team) were not up to capturing that in dialogue. It came off as stilted, overblown, and unrealistic. The running theme of Raiden not remembering what day it was had small enough value that it should have been scrapped and replaced with something more identifiable, and any humanity that WAS contained in the character was washed away by the colonel turning into an alien and saying shit like "I like flowers."
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Author: darketernal
Posted: March 20, 2012 (09:15 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
MGS2 still holds the highest mark on Metacritic of all MGS games, I think. MGS 3 which was my personal favorite has a 91 while 2 which was fantastic(though I admit I prefer Snake much-much more to Raiden) has a 96.
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Author: Roto13
Posted: March 20, 2012 (10:41 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The point of Raiden is that Raiden is you.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 20, 2012 (11:48 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah, except again the writing is so bad that the point is completely lost. Watson, of Sherlock Holmes fame, was an everyman. The Onion Knight in Game of Thrones was an everyman. Togusa in Ghost in the Shell. Shinji Ikari in Evangelion. The point is that these characters were well-written and felt real because of it. Then the audience identified with them and was really identifying with itself... it was a cool thing that happened.
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