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Author: Lewis
Posted: August 05, 2008 (02:14 AM)
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Very interesting review. Covers many of the same points mine did for the PC version, though I fear you don't quite do the narrative justice. BioShock has one of the most fascinatingly 'grown-up' stories I've had the joy of experiencing in a computer game, yet this review mentions it very little. Interestingly, while my opinion of BioShock goes up with every play, others' seem to go down. Either way, at eight or nine out of ten, it's a fabulous shooter that simply has to be played.


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Author: bluberry
Posted: August 05, 2008 (08:39 AM)
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what if you're a total scrub and give it a 6?

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Author: Halon
Posted: August 05, 2008 (09:21 AM)
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I said this already in the blog but it's basically a mediocre and sometimes dated shooter with an awesome premise and story that makes it worth playing if you don't mind dealing with an average game.


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Author: Suskie
Posted: August 05, 2008 (11:44 AM)
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I think my whole point with the review is that I'm telling people that this is a good game, and you should play it, so here are some flaws you should be aware of before you go into it. I guess I figured that there are enough reviews on the web that gush over the narrative, so while I was impressed by the setting, the history, and the many unexpected twists and turns the plot takes, I didn't want to dwell on it too long.


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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 18, 2009 (08:56 PM)
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Would some delightful staff member mind changing "socialist" to "capitalist"? I don't know how in the fuck I got that mixed up but it's been bothering me for a while now.

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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 18, 2009 (09:20 PM)
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To be honest, Suskie, neither socialist nor capitalist sounds right. Would utopian have been better? =/ It's your review, anyway; I just read the context in which you specified.


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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 18, 2009 (09:45 PM)
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Thanks to whoever did it. And WQ, I invite you to read this quote:

I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question: Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor. No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God. No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone. I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture. A city where the artist would not fear the censor. Where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality. Where the great would not be constrained by the small. And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well.

Sounds capitalist to me.


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Author: Genj
Posted: November 18, 2009 (09:46 PM)
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The people of Rapture were clearly objectivists.


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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 18, 2009 (09:49 PM)
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Ah. Yeah. That makes more sense.


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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 18, 2009 (09:53 PM)
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...Which is a form of capitalism.

Unless I'm politically retarded, which I fully acknowledge may be the case.


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Author: Genj
Posted: November 18, 2009 (10:35 PM)
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I would not call objectivism a form of capitalism at all. Objectivism is a philosophy. Its political and economic implications are derived from its ethics. But you're partially right in that capitalism is the only social system congruent with objectivist beliefs.

edit - I wouldn't recommend for anyone to try and understand Rand at all. Her work and ideas are terrible.


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Author: joseph_valencia
Posted: November 19, 2009 (12:13 AM)
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I've only read "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead." The prior is a pretty unbearable read at times, but the latter was actually decent. At the very least, I recommend perusing some of her quotes and musings.


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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 19, 2009 (08:06 AM)
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Well, if Wikipedia is to be trusted (and of course it is) then you're right, Genj. And I didn't know Rand herself developed the idea. This has been an educational experience for me.


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Author: Halon
Posted: November 19, 2009 (07:49 PM)
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Rand's capitalist beliefs were the result of her objectivist philosophy. Agree or disagree with her, some of her non-fiction work is worth reading, but as Spaceworlder said a lot of it is unbearable and she is one of the most cynical and selfish people to ever live.


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Author: CoarseDragon
Posted: November 20, 2009 (04:00 PM)
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"I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question: Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor. No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God. No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone. I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture. A city where the artist would not fear the censor. Where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality. Where the great would not be constrained by the small. And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well.

Sounds capitalist to me."


Sounds like an optimist to me.


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