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Author: hmd
Posted: October 20, 2011 (06:51 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
So what you're saying is this game is pretty much King's Field V? I can dig it!
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: October 21, 2011 (01:55 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't know if it's like King's Field V or not, as I've never played a King's Field game. The PlayStation art always turned me off, made the games look awful. Given how poorly PlayStation titles have aged, I'm not sure that's an impression I can ever rectify. Which is sad, possibly, if it means missing out on a great game.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: October 21, 2011 (09:42 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't come around here to comment much anymore, but I felt obligated to say what a great review this is, Jason! It actually made me cancel my pre-order of Drake's Deception to spend the money here instead. It's nice having someone talk to the "older generation" of gamers. Maybe that's what hooked me.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: October 21, 2011 (10:26 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Over the course of 150 hours of play, I encountered around 5 or maybe 10 seconds of slowdown while battling a slew of enemies in a waterlogged area.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: October 21, 2011 (10:27 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I might have to add this to the list of games to look for in the future after price reductions and all that. It looks really good.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: October 21, 2011 (01:09 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Suskie, our assessments on the quality of Dark Souls are likely destined to remain at odds with one another.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: October 21, 2011 (06:56 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You don't quite have the full picture, Jason, but since you're basing most of that what I've said on Twitter (which was pretty much just me venting), that's not your fault. I actually do have fairly complicated reasons for hating the game as much as I do, and it's not simply about the difficulty, but rather how the level of difficulty clashes with other design choices they've made.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: October 21, 2011 (07:44 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Thanks for the comments on the review, Suskie! I didn't expect to convince you with my review or my follow-up comments. Dark Souls clearly isn't the game for you. While I believe that it would improve SOME in your eyes if you experienced the whole thing (it has a lot more variety and feels a lot different by its end than Demon's Souls ever did), I can't picture a scenario where you reach the end and realize with surprise that you liked the game. Just considering that possibility makes me chuckle. I'm glad that even though we disagree on the game, you were able to appreciate what I did with the review and to respond respectfully. That's the sort of thing I expect from this community and it's something that I hope will continue for a long time to come.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: October 21, 2011 (07:55 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You know, it's weird. Dark Souls is almost identical to Demon's Souls; the one big difference is that it's now set in one enormous world. You paint this as a positive thing and I understand your logic (although I'd liken it to, say, Metroid Prime rather than Zelda). At the same time, this new approach to level design is one of the major reasons I became so much more frustrated with this game than I did with Demon's Souls. I'd go into more detail, but I'm actually writing my "review" as we speak, so hopefully it'll become clear.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: October 21, 2011 (08:06 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm curious to see both sides of this argument! Regardless I've heard the game is much harder than Demon's Souls (from everyone but Jason) and I have to say I can't wait for the challenge. I've been playing UNcharted on Crushing and God of War on God mode and it's just barely doing it for me.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: October 21, 2011 (08:11 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It was easy to cheese Demon's Souls by building a sorcerer-type character and then taking everything out from a distance with magic. That worked more often than not, and in fact you could defeat the final "real" boss by standing at the top of a short set of stairs and just throwing magic at him (he wouldn't even move to attack). In Dark Souls, you have to use actual skill with melee weapons. That was an adjustment for me, but once I got good at close-range combat, the game became much easier. Once I learned to use the right weapons and strategies on the right areas, enemies and bosses, things got much simpler and I was able to relish the exploration. There were still places where I died--a lot--but it was always because of my impatience, my lapses into a frame of mind where I told myself that games like this allow you to just run in and start hacking things to bits. That never works here. Keep it in mind and the game is a delight.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: October 21, 2011 (09:44 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Uh, I just submitted my review, but there was no preview screen and it's not listed under my submissions page. Did you receive it?
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: October 21, 2011 (09:55 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's in the queue. Someone should get to it soon, possibly me.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: October 21, 2011 (11:08 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Thanks. Sorry it was a bit shoddy, mechanically. I usually do my proofreading from the preview page, and I forgot that there no longer is one.
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Author: bwv_639
Posted: March 27, 2020 (07:32 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This is a lengthy and extremely favorable review for Dark Souls.
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