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Author: honestgamer
Posted: June 09, 2011 (12:01 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think your review brings up the problem I have with a lot of games. They're okay games, but when I play them and immediately find myself thinking of a better (similar) game that I've already played and wouldn't mind maybe playing again, that's a bad sign. It happens a lot when you've played a number of games in each major genre. Then people say "Why did you rate the game so high if you didn't like it?" and I say "Well, because it was a pretty good game but I've just played better." Other good--or better--games being available somewhere in the world don't change the general quality of an inferior title that's more readily available.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 09, 2011 (10:01 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah. Lament, to me, was inferior to a Devil May Cry or a God of War, but nailed the general formula good enough to not come close to being classed with lesser titles like the movie licenses of, say, Clash of the Titans or that Thor game you reviewed.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 09, 2011 (01:12 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
But that's no more ridiculous than a fucking librarian hawking rapiers in SOTN, or a cloaked fool with rocket launchers on offer FOLLOWING you around in RE4 -- and those are two of the best games ever made.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 09, 2011 (01:24 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
But that's no more ridiculous than a fucking librarian hawking rapiers in SOTN, or a cloaked fool with rocket launchers on offer FOLLOWING you around in RE4 -- and those are two of the best games ever made.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 09, 2011 (01:32 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Haha. Typical stealth game issue, I guess. How is that game? It's been so long since I played a game that really captured my imagination. I've been playing Dead Nation, since I got it free from Sony, and it started out pretty cool. But now, five areas in, I realize that I have another five areas of the same exact thing to look forward to. I feel like game designers make something pretty cool and then they stretch it out way too long ...and ironically, the game buying public then complains that games aren't long enough.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 09, 2011 (01:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Anyway, bad manners--I haven't read your review yet.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 09, 2011 (02:11 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I feel like game designers make something pretty cool and then they stretch it out way too long
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 09, 2011 (02:13 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ha, so our resident pro, Tom Chick had it right?
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 09, 2011 (02:45 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
But...I find myself more interesting! Er...nice catch, I mean.
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Author: radicaldreamer
Posted: June 09, 2011 (03:40 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I always find myself more interesting.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 10, 2011 (10:38 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ha, so our resident pro, Tom Chick had it right?
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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 16, 2011 (12:56 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You nailed my exact issue with Lament of Innocence - I soon found myself running through rooms as quickly as possible to avoid fighting anything, then at some point I wondered why in an action game I would have to do so. Experience may give the opportunity to cheese out by grinding, but nobody forces you to do so. I'll take getting a tangible payoff for what I'm doing over Lament's approach any day.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 18, 2011 (02:16 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I had that same issue. Particularly with the more mobile bosses like the elemental fighters. They'd be flying around and pummeling me and I'd find myself basically avoiding them and trying to counterattack when I could. Which would lead to me going through potions constantly which would lead to me wasting time harvesting money to buy more. I'm sure I could have handled fights like that a lot more easily if I'd done more with the battle system, but when there's usually no reason to do so other than unlocking doors the first time you enter a room, it's easy to wind up doing little besides the most basic stuff because you don't really take the time to learn the more combo-riffic moves.
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