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Author: orctowngrot
Posted: May 24, 2011 (12:24 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
7, LOL. Well that's gonna need a psychological profile of the reviewer. Needs attention? Can't concentrate long? This game is more than a 7, even if you don't like, it, can't handle the controls, and couldn't be bothered with the item crafting. Suggest another 40 hours of playtesting and try your review again.
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Author: xDeth7
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:05 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I just registered with this website to leave feedback for the reviewer.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:06 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"This game is more than a 7, even if you don't like it."
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Author: Nightmare
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:27 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
And he's back again...
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Author: xDeth7
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:39 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
A '7' isn't a bad review score - but the Witcher 2 is a great game on all counts. It's apparent - I mean, it's obvious. If you've played any of the distilled, homogenized RPG titles that have been released recently like DAII then it should be even clearer by simple comparison.
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Author: Nightmare
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:53 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You apparently skipped over the part where I said that bugs are not ubiquitous in this game - especially not to the degree he's giving an example of. He's cherry picking a single incident.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:57 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'll address a few points.
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Author: fleinn
Posted: May 24, 2011 (04:01 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
..always hate review-scores. But I agree with ^.. the review is fairly solid, it explains well why it ends up as it does.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: May 24, 2011 (04:58 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
If it helps, I'd have given both Mass Effect 2 and the original Dragon Age 8/10 scores. Dragon Age 2 would, like The Witcher 2, have been a 7.
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Author: fleinn
Posted: May 24, 2011 (05:19 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
..wasn't really the point, though. Not sure why the guy up there couldn't be specific, or if it just was a general "I think this game is better than.." thing. I'm just saying that it still looks out of place to knock the fighting system. Not sure if you do that because you.. you know.. don't see the point with it, or if you don't think it matters for the game and the role-playing.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: May 24, 2011 (05:46 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I see what you mean a little better now.
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Author: fleinn
Posted: May 24, 2011 (06:07 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
lol :) yeah. ..Or what does orctown say?
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Author: Halon
Posted: May 24, 2011 (08:30 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
See? This is why I'm against scoring games. It does nothing but start fights and piss people off.
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Author: xDeth7
Posted: May 24, 2011 (09:36 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I was going to offer more counter-points, but since you said that the Witcher 2 is on equal level to Dragon Age II - I don't have to anymore. The two games aren't even in the same realm of one another. To draw them equally shows a serious lack of prowess, I mean, and incredible lack. I enjoyed Dragon Age II, but its absence of depth, customization, and especially the recycled areas (most importantly) all made it a poor game that was obviously rushed out the door.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: May 24, 2011 (10:01 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yes, because in my review I definitely said the only problem I had was a single bug. That's definitely what I used up 1,500 words on.
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Author: JoeTheDestroyer (Mod)
Posted: May 24, 2011 (10:47 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Dude, seriously, give it a rest. To quote a user at Destructoid:
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Author: xDeth7
Posted: May 24, 2011 (11:10 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's apparent that hyperbole is your secondary language.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: May 24, 2011 (12:03 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ugh. There's no such thing as objectivity in a review. Reviews are based on a single person's experiences, good or bad, which ultimately forms their opinion of the game. Because one person's experience can differ widely from another - especially considering that each person considers some aspects of a game more important over others in differently proportionate amounts - these experiences shape and form the beliefs a person holds about the game. Therefore, no objectivity can exist, and any notion of "facts" is a mere charade.
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Author: xDeth7
Posted: May 24, 2011 (12:10 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"What you are expressing is your own opinion as well, and can equally - and has been - be lambasted in turn."
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: May 24, 2011 (12:10 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't think he's being a troll, Wolfqueen. Not really. He's expressing his distaste for the review that Lewis wrote and he's not being kind about it, but he's at least making an effort to do that rationally and that's something I can appreciate even if I like the review that Lewis wrote a lot more than he does.
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Author: xDeth7
Posted: May 24, 2011 (12:36 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"Unless it accomplishes that beauty in a remarkable manner, there's no innovation there."
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:03 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
When I said "well-supported" I was referring not to the reception from audiences (I'm aware that his dissenting opinion is unpopular in the world at large, as dissenting opinions tend to be) but to the structure of his review and the support he provided for each of his dissenting points.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: May 24, 2011 (01:33 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
xDeth7, you obviously disagree on many levels with Lewis's review, and you're obviously passionate enough about it to put your feelings into a lot of words. So you know what I suggest? Write a review of your own. Seriously. In case you haven't noticed, user-submitted reviews are the fuel that lights the HonestGamers fire, and we heavily value a variety of opinions from a variety of voices. If you want to invalidate Lewis's review, then the best way to do that is to write up a review that's even more convincing than his.
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Author: JoeTheDestroyer (Mod)
Posted: May 24, 2011 (02:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Indeed. You've provided ample information here to outline the structure of your own review. It's a far better usage of one's passion.
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