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Author: CoarseDragon
Posted: March 24, 2011 (11:51 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Another review I read said the same thing about the repeated environments as you did. To bad that has to happen. I suppose I would much rather have a bit shorter game than one padded with repeats.
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Author: fleinn
Posted: March 24, 2011 (01:37 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
hehe. Great summary. It's rare that I completely agree with just about everything you say, so I had to say that. From what I've played.. not sure I like the way the game forces all the branching to a close by the end of each segment.. that really is my biggest problem with bioware nowadays. That you don't think the choices you make stick with you, even if they are harrowing and significant when they take place, and so on..
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Author: Suskie
Posted: March 24, 2011 (01:52 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Thanks. Yeah, I really didn't have anything new to say about this game so anyone who's been keeping up with Dragon Age II will probably already have heard what I've said here. Still, from me, given my disappointment... it needed to be said.
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Author: jerec
Posted: March 24, 2011 (02:27 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
" Dragon Age II is a lazily designed game with a mediocre story that's ultimately saved by its electrifying combat. So basically, it's this year's Final Fantasy XIII. Yeah, I went there. "
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Author: fleinn
Posted: March 24, 2011 (02:31 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Lyrium overdose monster... aiai lol.. No, I got to play it for a day.. not sure if I will finish it.. :/ Like you say.. it's difficult to.. *wave* .. it's not a bad game, it's just that it seems they wanted to write some sort of fantasy fable instead of a game or something.. I don't know..
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Author: Suskie
Posted: March 24, 2011 (02:36 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It even had the same release date give or take one day.
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Author: jerec
Posted: March 24, 2011 (02:38 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
As the weeks go by I am more and more glad I didn't rush out to buy this on day 1.
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Author: JoeTheDestroyer (Mod)
Posted: March 24, 2011 (02:53 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Great review, Mike. I liked how it sounded like a totally positive review, then gave us the big, ugly "but". I haven't been in any hurry to pick this game up, and I think I will be waiting for a discounted price.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: March 24, 2011 (03:50 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Thanks all. Yeah, I picked up DA2 on day one because I figured it would be an improvement over the first game (the demo certainly indicated so), so I was immensely disappointed. If you haven't picked up the game yet, you're lucky that you've gotten the warning that I never had.
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Author: jerec
Posted: July 20, 2011 (05:54 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Dropped to half price so I picked it up. Actually enjoying it so far. Also, the elf is voiced by Eve Myles. She is never leaving my party. That's so awesome.
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Author: threetimes
Posted: July 20, 2011 (12:18 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've never played a Dragon Age game or any Bioware one for that matter, so I was pretty lost reading this review with all the references to Mass Effect. I didn't really understand how the combat worked - or how the game is structured: is it just a mission based game? Sorry, but I ended the review without a clear picture of the game.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: July 20, 2011 (01:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Dragon Age 2 does not belong to an obscure franchise. It's the sequel to a very prolific developer's most successful game of all time, and it was produced by one of the video game industry's largest, oldest and most iconic publishers. I have also reviewed the Xbox 360 version of a game whose predecessor was also available on Xbox 360. So yes, I expect readers to come into this review with at least a modest level of familiarity with the subject matter, and that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
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Author: threetimes
Posted: July 20, 2011 (04:24 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, I guess reading or commenting on reviews of games or genres I haven't played is something I'd better avoid in the future.
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Author: jerec
Posted: July 21, 2011 (12:16 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Why the sympathy? I don't mind if I get to have sloppy seconds after you've done Merrill. >_>
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Author: WilltheGreat
Posted: July 21, 2011 (02:00 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, I guess reading or commenting on reviews of games or genres I haven't played is something I'd better avoid in the future.
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Author: threetimes
Posted: July 21, 2011 (09:25 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Part of the response was, why am I reading a review about a game from a genre that I'm unfamiliar with. So yes, the implication from that was - you're not qualified to comment.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: July 21, 2011 (09:36 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
At the risk of exacerbating the issue, I would say that you shouldn't really feel offended at all, threetimes. What I got from Suskie's comments was more the idea that it's not as good an idea to read reviews of sequels if you haven't read reviews of the original game first, because the originals usually cover all the bases. In fact, I agree with Suskie's approach to reviewing sequels, and use it myself whenever I can. However, that doesn't mean I'd feel wrong to comment on a review of a game I've never played before. At least, not when it's the first in the series (of course, there are always exceptions...). The whole point of reviews (ideally, anyway) is to determine whether said game we've never played before would actually appeal to us, after all. But, I do feel that when discussing games we're completely unfamiliar with, it may be better to start at the beginning, if indeed we're dealing with titles in a series.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: July 21, 2011 (12:16 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm not saying you're unqualified to comment, Threetimes. But your comment said that there was an issue regarding what assumptions are made about the audience, and I'm saying that, from my perspective, no there isn't. This is how I review sequels, and this is how I will continue to review them.
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Author: threetimes
Posted: July 23, 2011 (09:45 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I had no expectation that you would do otherwise.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: July 23, 2011 (10:22 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It varies from game to game, obviously. I'm afraid I'm not well-versed in Dragon Quest or Suikoden so I can't comment on either of those, but the Final Fantasy games are not sequels in the traditional sense; they're standalone games that happen to share some of the same terminology. In terms of a series, they're the polar opposite of BioWare's recent games. Both Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 2 allow you to import your save file from the previous game, so that the choices you've made carry over into the sequels. I don't think I mentioned that in my DA2 review because it doesn't have an enormous impact on the story (unlike in ME2, where it's one of the big draws), but that should give you an example of how close-knit games in BioWare's franchises are becoming.
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