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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 10, 2010 (12:22 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Good review. I find it increasingly distressing that companies seemingly want to emphasize multiplayer, especially online multiplayer, more than anything else nowadays. In a lot of cases, this isn't a problem because the single player is still competent, so I'd just feel like I was missing a lot without the multiplayer rather than not getting any enjoyment out of the game for lacking it. But even so, I really agree that both aspects should be treated equally so as to best appeal to everyone. I know that in twenty years or so from now when I finally get a next-gen system, I still probably won't use the internet as a focus for my enjoyment in videogames. I like to have options.
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Author: fleinn
Posted: November 10, 2010 (12:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
:) ..DICE kind of made COD look silly a long time ago with Battlefield :p.. and was only hired (or "chosen", as some EA rep put it) to do the multiplayer for Medal of Honor. ..actually I think DICE folks have mentioned that the single-player game (developed by EA's LA studio.. who I don't know anything about..) uses a modified Unreal 3 engine. While the multiplayer portion runs on DICE's Frostbite engine (the same as the one used in Bad Company 2 - where they, btw, dedicate the entire single player campaign to make fun of COD).
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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 10, 2010 (03:30 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I was kind of surprised when I read this, because your opinion is exactly the opposite of mine. I would say that the single-player was actually pretty competently handled, and that the multiplayer was what didn't live up to its end of the bargain. (In fact, I did say that, but I'm not allowed to say where.) I haven't played much of Black Ops' campaign yet, but I'm not impressed with it so far and I'll be amused if I wind up liking Medal of Honor's campaign more.
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: November 10, 2010 (05:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
wolfqueen001:
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 10, 2010 (06:41 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
haha. Oops. So it did. My head hurts today.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: November 11, 2010 (08:12 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Great review Gary--even if you're completely wrong. This thing is well written and persuasive: you had me believing everything you said... almost.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: November 11, 2010 (09:10 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You're all mad. The single player is rubbish, but I've abandoned Reach to rack up more hours in the multiplayer.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: November 11, 2010 (10:51 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Here's the only wise thing you've said today, Emp:
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: November 11, 2010 (11:10 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Review was written: done, and on to the next one.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 12, 2010 (01:07 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I was getting too good at Reach, anyway.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: November 12, 2010 (02:37 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The Black Ops campaign does improve as you hit the second half (after the Vietnam stage), definitely. However, it's fairly rough around the edges all around. I haven't played Medal of Honor, but there are some definite points where Call of Duty could have improved that I hope to address in my impending review. I want to spend some time with multi-player before I actually review it, naturally.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: November 12, 2010 (09:18 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Your .87 K/D makes us quiver with fear.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 12, 2010 (01:29 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Have you played Reach at all recently? Because Infection has its own playlist now. It's great because now I don't have to play it.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: November 12, 2010 (03:24 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've not. I was offline for a couple of weeks, so played nothing but single player stuff, then, when I got online, I wanted to get MoH out of the way.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: November 12, 2010 (03:57 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah, it was just lovely when I'd go to play an online match and everyone would vote everything down until there was an Infection map to play. Sometimes (most of the time) all I want is a little deathmatch!
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: November 14, 2010 (05:21 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ok, time to actually leave my thoughts on the review. It's generally well written and I agree with most of the points raised about the single player campaign, but the whole thing is a bit one-sided. It does mention that not every aspect of the sub-par solo game is a waste of time, but it doesn't make any similar attempt at balance in its rabid adoration of the online component. There is no mention of the hideous spawning system (leading to many matches being a race to see which team can spawn-camp fastest), for instance. I'm not saying the review should agree with my opinions; I'm saying that just as the campaign has a few redeeming features, the multiplayer has distinct flaws that, even if you don't consider them cripplingly bad, really need to be mentioned.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: November 14, 2010 (08:31 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Before anything else, thanks for your feedback.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: November 14, 2010 (10:44 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
My big multiplayer gripe at the moment tends to be that people are annoyingly good at sniping, but I'm not going to punish the title because other players are better than I.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: November 14, 2010 (11:53 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I love the maps that almost encourage camping. It takes a few attempts, but you can get behind them on go on a huge killing spree. That's the only reason the shotgun exists.
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: November 14, 2010 (04:06 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That's fair enough, EmP, and I'm certainly not contradicting your opinion. If you haven't perceived the same problems that I have you can hardly be expected to comment on them. I assumed it would be impossible for anyone to not experience the fish-in-a-barrel situation that results from spawn points that funnel players along one (occasionally two) narrow channel. But evidently not everyone has found that to be the case. And that's fair enough.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: November 15, 2010 (06:32 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Suskie makes a good point... this is probably why I don't like the multiplayer. I'm seriously anti-camping and as such, I don't like those sprawling, busy maps where you poke your head out and lose it. Doesn't help that there's no killcam as far as I know.
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: November 16, 2010 (06:45 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm seriously anti-camping too, and I found there was too much of it in Medal of Honor. Most online FPSs suffer from camping to some extent, but MoH was the worst I've ever played.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: November 16, 2010 (07:13 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Fear of revenge is what keeps people on their toes and reluctant to camp!
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Author: SamildanachEmrys
Posted: November 16, 2010 (10:36 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
True enough, but I'm not a camper and it annoys me that I have to immediately change direction and run away as fast as possible. I can't continue on my way to wherever I was going. Bah.
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