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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 05, 2010 (12:20 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
So here's my big question with this game.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 05, 2010 (03:06 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The point of that paragraph / sectim was to demonstrate the necessity of balance between the non-combat and ease of venturing skills. However, I have reread this part of the review myself and see that I did not explicitly - or even implicitly - make that point, and this upsets me a little because the idea of balance is absolutely critical. Basically, investing in skills like foraging and repair and the like will save you a lot of time and money in the long run. In fact, I can say that without some of them, I probably would have run out of funds at some point without being able to recoup them and that would have meant another restart. (In a sense, that was partly - mainly even - why I had to restart the first time... The monsteres kicked my ass so much that I had to keep going back for repairs and eventually I ran out of money to do this).
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 05, 2010 (05:45 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Good paragraph. Okay, it's bought. Seriously, take that as huge compliment, because I haven't bought a game now in over three months. I'm sooo broke*. But you convinced me beyond being able to help myself.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 05, 2010 (06:43 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Haha. I'm glad my piece was strong enough to convince you. =D
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 05, 2010 (06:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Check your HGMAIL.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 05, 2010 (07:04 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
No u! =D I love this game.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 05, 2010 (07:40 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'll be playing some tonight. I've been warned by several reviews now that I have to be excruiciatingly careful in leveling. We'll see how far I get.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 05, 2010 (08:05 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Sweet. Yeah. I'm glad I added that paragraph because that's something I was trying to get across, too. XD It is, frankly, a very, very delicate balance. But a challenging and fun one. Hopefully, if you make any mistakes, it'll be early on so that if you have to restart, it won't be a big deal.
[Eating EmP's brain] probably isn't a good idea. I mean... He's British, which means his brain's wired for PAL and your eyes are NTSC. - Will |
Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 06, 2010 (12:18 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, I only got a little bit in. I took an hour and a half to watch Vantage Point (terrible film... 2/5 stars from me) and another half hour to let my jaw hang in amazement at the CGI our British team just sent back for Population 2. Wow. Just... wow.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 06, 2010 (01:19 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Here's something I don't understand. I'd like to use my own portrait for my character. But I don't quite get STEAM. Does it actually download the gaming folder to somewhere on my computer? It must, right? But then where the hell is it...
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Author: jerec
Posted: November 06, 2010 (02:16 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Gee, that picture in the focus window looks exciting!
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 06, 2010 (08:25 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Zipp: Yeah. You might struggle a little bit without an armor class. I don't remember if there's a skill for unarmored or if the skill just pertains to hand-to-hand fighting, but if there is, you could've taken that as well. Still, there's actually a special challenge that requires the mage class to not wear any heavy armor, so you might be OK.
[Eating EmP's brain] probably isn't a good idea. I mean... He's British, which means his brain's wired for PAL and your eyes are NTSC. - Will |
Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 06, 2010 (09:38 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah, the reason I choose bow was because it used dexterity and concentration, which are much higher than my speed and strength. It's the one point I'm iffy on, but I think if I really just rely on magic, I might be okay. I do think my first level I will nab light armour.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 06, 2010 (09:43 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That's good. And you can learn alchemy off a trainer later, too, so don't worry about that.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 06, 2010 (11:09 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ha, well I restarted. The whole range thing wasn't working out because in groups enemies close fast and then both my arrows and spells became much less effective.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 06, 2010 (03:32 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Lock picking is handy, but it's up to you. You can also cast magic on the chests and doors to break them. At least then you don't have to repair a weapon. There's also a spell you can get that'll destroy locks.
[Eating EmP's brain] probably isn't a good idea. I mean... He's British, which means his brain's wired for PAL and your eyes are NTSC. - Will |
Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 06, 2010 (04:31 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I really appreciate all the hints! I don't mind restarting my game after the first couple of levels and dungeons, but when I'm level 15 and have explored half the world, I'm not going to be happy if I decide I'm stuck!
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 06, 2010 (06:14 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Cartography is a fun skill. In fact, it was one of my favorites to experiment with because I loved seeing how much more detailed the map would become after another level. However, I just hought all of my mapping skills.
[Eating EmP's brain] probably isn't a good idea. I mean... He's British, which means his brain's wired for PAL and your eyes are NTSC. - Will |
Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 06, 2010 (06:21 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah, I don't need specifics of locations and what not. That stuff is fun to discover on my own. More I appreciate the tips on leveling and using skills. I think I'll take foraging for my next level.
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Author: jerec
Posted: November 06, 2010 (07:09 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"Now say something useful. =D "
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 07, 2010 (01:24 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, I finally found another town. Took me forever because I got confused by a map and went towards the Farrock Range, unsuccessfully trying several times to cross it. Finally I decided it was too far beyond my ability and started to explore west... and there found the roadsigns that pointed to all the nearby villages.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 07, 2010 (11:55 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
New this morning: there is no way I'm paying a 1000 crowns to get inside the Port town. No way.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 07, 2010 (12:05 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
At first, I tried balancing my attributes out and then realized it wasn't working, so I wound up just balancing all my lesser skills to around 15 and pumping the main ones for my character (in my case, dexterity, strength and some endurance).
[Eating EmP's brain] probably isn't a good idea. I mean... He's British, which means his brain's wired for PAL and your eyes are NTSC. - Will |
Author: zippdementia
Posted: November 07, 2010 (02:18 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I found the Steam folder last night (under library, apps, application support, steam, usual content... for christ's sake...). I added a picture of our main actress in (helps to have a familiar face) and I have version 1.05:
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: November 07, 2010 (02:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ah, okay. Yeah; since you have 1.05, there might be a few new (perhaps minor) changes in addition to the new content (such as more respawning, but you'll have to do some experimenting to verify that for sure). I don't think the caves themselves are that content, though, because I've been through the Farrock Caves myself and didn't really find anything special (except for a really wicked boss). I would advise exploring them fully if you can, though. And not just for the new content (which I think would be too tough for you right now anyway).
[Eating EmP's brain] probably isn't a good idea. I mean... He's British, which means his brain's wired for PAL and your eyes are NTSC. - Will |
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