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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 03, 2010 (10:51 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Nice to see a review for DTD up here! I once-upon-a-time owned the original book. Think I sold it, though... did you ever get into Lone Wolf, Bloomer?
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 03, 2010 (01:06 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I never had the Deathtrap Dungeon book (or game, for that matter), but I did buy the "sequel" to it, which took place in a revamped Deathtrap Dungeon ("Trial of Champions"). Of the Fighting Fantasy series, that particular one basically took its flaws and multiplied them times about 6,000,000,000,000.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 03, 2010 (02:18 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That was kind've the point of Fighting Fantasy, though, right? The game style was "the one true path" and the challenge was finding that path over multiple play throughs. You almost never made it on the first go. The cruelest (but also probably the coolest) of the series was Creature of Havoc where you don't even know what you are and your instincts take over in the form of random rolls that decide which direction you go in certain paths.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 03, 2010 (04:19 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yes and no. Yes in the fact that FF games were "one true path" games and you would need to go through them a few times to get them, but No in the sense that Trial of Champions took things to a truly sadistic level.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 03, 2010 (04:49 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I never made it to Trial of Champions, so my knowledge is limited, but it reminds me greatly (from the sounds of it) like Citadel of Chaos, with those damn... what were they called?... Gamgees?
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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 03, 2010 (10:24 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've played a number of FF books over the years and recently (well, two years ago, heh) picked up a couple that I found for cheap. The margin for error varies per book, and is usually on the steep side, but I remember Deathtrap Dungeon as being particularly nasty.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 03, 2010 (10:53 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Recall, too, that the video games that existed at the time when these books first came out were on the level of pacman and donkey kong. Great games, but not something to fill your evening with. Having a reason to read an adventure over and over was appreciated back then.
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Author: zigfried
Posted: June 04, 2010 (12:15 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The three best Fighting Fantasies out of the first 21 (because that's all that the US got -- I never even knew the series continued until my Australian friend brought some with him to college):
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Author: bloomer
Posted: June 04, 2010 (12:49 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hades? That must be 'House of Hell' but with the name changed to 'Hades' for the US market.
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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 04, 2010 (02:10 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I remember Forest of Doom as actually being fairly forgiving. As I recall, if you make it out of the Forest without the required items, you are allowed to circle back and go through again with the same character, though obviously that has the odd result of all encounters having respawned.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: June 04, 2010 (06:50 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Forest of Doom is forgiving. If you're referring to my Ian Livingstone observation, remember this was only the 3rd FF book, and the books didn't even have numbers at that point. When the popularity levels got high enough, they rebranded the earliest books with numbers, brought in more authors to help, and generally the possibilities for really savage or tricky books to cater for experienced players jacked up a lot.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 04, 2010 (07:48 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Lone Wolf has had a HUGE revival. Not only are they reprinting all the books, they've also released a few pen-and-paper RPGs and have a video game coming out sometime next year from the makers of Gungrave (there's a long history behind the development that I'm not going to go into right now).
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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 04, 2010 (09:19 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That reminds me that every so often I have vague plans to turn one of the books into text adventure format, obviously also handling character creation and having a combat engine. I really need to put that idea into practice someday. Maybe with Warlock of Firetop Mountain. It can only turn out better than the DS game from what I hear.
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Author: zigfried
Posted: June 04, 2010 (06:38 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I started to make a text adventure out of Talisman of Death. I didn't get very far, as I was significantly expanding each scene, but it does feature the following:
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 04, 2010 (07:56 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've only done 3 Fighting Fantasy books, Zipp, so that Citadel of Chaos deal is unfamiliar to me. What's the issue with that monster or whatever you mentioned?
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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 04, 2010 (10:24 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've made one attempt on Snow Witch (a book that was played into my hands because an ex of my girlfriend at the time had left it with her and never reclaimed it so she passed it on). I never reached the Snow Witch, I eventually got killed because I lacked an item I was supposed to pick up somewhere earlier. So straight out traditional stuff. I'll have to retry it, and the other 10 or so unplayed books I have, someday.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: June 05, 2010 (08:28 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Heh, lots of us tried to do the text adventure conversion, then.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: June 05, 2010 (08:30 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Re: Snow Witch...
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Author: bloomer
Posted: June 05, 2010 (08:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Re: Sword of the Samurai (OD's one)
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 05, 2010 (10:11 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That makes sense (re: Snow Witch), then. There is a prelude to her dungeon where you're helping some dudes living in the vicinity with a yeti-like thing, that leads to you getting dumped into her place.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 05, 2010 (10:53 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
To OD:
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