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Author: espiga
Posted: April 01, 2010 (02:56 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Nice review. Several things though:
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Author: Suskie
Posted: April 01, 2010 (07:18 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
All good catches. Thanks a lot!
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Author: bloomer
Posted: April 01, 2010 (07:44 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm glad I read this. HG's review was as coy as a coy child with a coyness machine. (It's okay HG, I know you fully explained your stance.)
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: April 01, 2010 (11:37 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Not a bad review. Not one I agree with at all, but it's not a flame review and I respect that. You point out the things that bothered you and, with a couple exceptions (ie. the low resolution? What are you talking about?) I think that all the things that bugged you about the game are there. They aren't bad things by their nature, but you explain why they are bad things to you without nonsensical bashing.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: April 01, 2010 (12:52 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Aha! Were you not the one who said, "Everyone should try it"? OH SNAP I GOT YOU NOW.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: April 01, 2010 (01:55 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hey, though, aren't you glad you tried it, even if you didn't like it? ^_^
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: April 01, 2010 (02:16 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Heavy Rain and most PS3-exclusives (and non-exclusives) tend to run at 720P. On the Xbox 360 front, a lot more games tend to run at 1080P. However, most Xbox 360 units aren't capable of outputting 1080P. Microsoft has dropped support for it. The reality, then, is that most gamers are playing most games this generation at 720P, no matter what is "available" to them.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: April 01, 2010 (06:34 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
720p can't be called lo-res. In some countries it is officially considered high definition along with 1080. I would be extremely surprised if this was really the source of any difficulty in making out elements on the screen. The difference between the 2 resolutions is real, but small, because they're both very high resolutions for the material they're showing on the screens of the size they're designed to show them on. Though as TVs get bigger and bigger, they show up more pixels in 720.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: April 01, 2010 (06:52 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Really? I can tell the difference in an instant. Like, FFXIII is one of the only PS3 games I know that runs in 1080p, and the difference between that and other PS3 games I've played is like night and day. Whether or not my inability to distinguish buttom prompts is due to a lower-than-ideal resolution or just flat-out developer incompetence is up for debate, I suppose; it was nevertheless a problem.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: April 01, 2010 (07:13 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I normally wouldn't try to sell it, Suskie, but it's obvious to me that Quantic Dreams was using such techniques intentionally. Theyw ould have made the text boxes larger if they wanted them to be especially easy to view, the way other developers do with both 720P and 1080P resolutions. The shaking that you're talking about is another part of that same effect, but it's not the only one. The circling text windows, the vanishing behind objects, the shaking, the small size... all of that was clearly intentional to contribute to that same overall effect.
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Author: randxian
Posted: April 01, 2010 (08:19 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
How is that interactive storytelling, if my (presumably correct) decisions can be made moot in an instant if I fail some stupid, arbitrary reflex test?
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Author: zigfried
Posted: April 01, 2010 (08:39 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Knowing what to do, and successfully doing it, are two different things.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: April 01, 2010 (09:22 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Jason: When I said "decidedly low resolution," I meant in contrast to what was possible. Might not have been the best way to phrase that. Of course it's high def, but when the button prompts are too fuzzy for me to read, obviously it's not enough, at least for me. I consider this a flaw whether it was intentional or not. The shakiness I'm okay with, because it was obviously intentional and reflects well on the few situations in which it pops up.
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Author: randxian
Posted: April 02, 2010 (05:46 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Heavy Rain has no "game over." Anything that happens in the game as a result of your actions (or inactions) is permanent until you start a new game
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: April 02, 2010 (10:48 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Except that it's not true, Suskie. You have the option at any time to go back and replay a chapter if you are unhappy with the results and want to change your decisions. I did that a couple times in my playthrough without any hassle. So saying that these things are permanent is really distorting the facts.
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Author: zigfried
Posted: April 02, 2010 (11:18 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm picking up on an inconsistency from both sides.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: April 02, 2010 (12:53 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't think there's jarring points. Jason is saying, and he's right, that the button prompts are designed to not be easy to hit all the time. That's because the characters are in some pretty tough spots and the player has to be fast on their toes, making them feel like they are more in the moment.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: April 02, 2010 (03:36 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hmm... I wasn't aware that chapters could be replayed, and I'm now trying to decide who's at fault for that. On one hand, if that's true, then you're right: Decisions and mistakes made in the game can be fixed. On the other hand, since there still isn't a "game over" screen, if I continue playing like normal without actively searching for such an option, I can get through the entire game without knowing replaying chapters can even be done, as I did.
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Author: CRUSHedagain
Posted: April 02, 2010 (06:52 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Troll attempt is fail. Awful waffles.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: April 02, 2010 (10:01 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
OK.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: April 02, 2010 (10:29 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That really says it all right there, Suskie. CRUSH just said it much more eloquently than I ever could.
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Author: espiga
Posted: April 02, 2010 (10:53 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hello everyone. I just played this awesome new game that I've dubbed the "Heavy Rain" killer. I decided to post a screenshot:
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Author: CRUSHedagain
Posted: April 03, 2010 (12:23 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
If - and that's a very skeptical 'if' - you could, say, purchase 200yen capsule toys in that game that you've posted a photomagraph of. . .
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Posted: April 03, 2010 (01:32 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
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