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Author: honestgamer (Mod)
Posted: March 01, 2010 (02:14 AM)
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I obviously enjoyed Metal Slug 7 a great deal more than you did, and it's obvious that I also liked Metal Slug 5 more than you (and from what I can see, I liked it more than most others did). Still, I can see where you're coming from with this.

The franchise hasn't really gone anywhere new in recent years, aside from the obvious venture into puzzle-style areas this time around... which I was sort of surprised to see you not mention. I'm not sure that the franchise really needs to evolve a whole lot at this point. It'll still be entertaining for the person who is playing this as his first or second Metal Slug game, and I'd imagine that such a person is the target audience for this release.

For the long-time Metal Slug fanatic, yeah, there's not a lot to see here. Though I'm mostly happy with what's icluded here, I agree that some new material wouldn't hurt. I'm just not sure what else there is left to do that's true to the series and that would be fun to play.


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Author: zigfried (Mod)
Posted: March 01, 2010 (05:43 AM)
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Thanks for the interesting comments. I'm gonna rant a bit, because playing this game got me more and more irritated as it went on... from "this came is actually pretty cool" when I first started, to "f*** this" by the end.

Looking back, there was only one area that I would possibly consider puzzle-style -- the one where you stop shooting to automatically turn cranks so that you can descend and escape the giant steel ball. It never occurred to me to consider it a "puzzle" zone, as it wasn't really a puzzle. It was just a brief (and conceptually welcome) interlude where the focus was on running instead of killing, although the number of spawning enemies and bullets made turning the cranks annoying. Conceptually it was cool, but in actually playing that scene, it was irritating. I felt the neat, challenging bosses were a more significant element.

Conceptually, I could talk about all kinds of cool stuff that happens in Metal Slug XX. But when none of it is particularly new or fair, what's the point? If someone wants a cooler game, they can play Metal Slug X or 3. If someone wants a fairer game that actually encourages player improvement over credit-feeding, they can play a different series entirely.

You have a point about how a change to the series would probably be viewed as "not faithful". That's SNK Playmore's fault. They have set a strong precedent for REFUSING to change anything about the series. Go read DConnoy's review of Metal Slug X, written eight or nine years ago at GameFAQs -- that's a review of this game, right down to the gags, control issues, and combat school mode. The thing is, if you look at the first three Slugs, the series was going somewhere. Maybe not quickly, but it was happening. Metal Slug 2/X was a significant upgrade to the first in terms of enemies and animations, and Metal Slug 3 expanded the weirdness and had a bunch of alternate paths (enough paths that it was a significant feature). If similar sequels would be seen as unfaithful today, it's because SNK Playmore dug themselves into a hole. Plenty of series have made mechanically diverse sequels in the past, and succeeded.

If SNK Playmore refuses to put forth that effort, then they need to retire the series... at least, retire it on systems that already have Metal Slug Anthology. How can I suggest someone spend money on a single Metal Slug UMD -- and not the best of the series -- when you could instead buy a UMD containing six (technically seven) Metal Slugs on it, some of which are better? Are people really buying this game? There's a ton of other stuff they could be making instead that people aren't sick of.

//Zig


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Author: honestgamer (Mod)
Posted: March 01, 2010 (12:09 PM)
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Regarding Metal Slug Anthology, I've heard that the PSP port is the worst and suffers from crippling bugs. Am I to assume that was that not your experience? In any event, we're agreed that MS7 could have been better. It's not an instant classic, just a really, really good Metal Slug and the best since 3. I'm not sure that we even disagree on that point, despite me liking it more than you.


"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F. Kennedy on reality

"What if everything you see is more than what you see--the person next to you is a warrior and the space that appears empty is a secret door to another world? What if something appears that shouldn't? You either dismiss it, or you accept that there is much more to the world than you think. Perhaps it really is a doorway, and if you choose to go inside, you'll find many unexpected things." - Shigeru Miyamoto


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Author: zigfried (Mod)
Posted: March 01, 2010 (04:36 PM)
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I know we don't disagree; I was just ranting.

MSA was certainly a lazy port, but I wouldn't say it was particularly buggy. It's similar to DDP:DOJ:BLEX on 360... people always called that "buggy" too, but the only issues I encountered with either game were annoying loading times. I didn't play MSA on PS2 or Wii, so I can't compare the versions, although I had always heard that the Wii was the worst.

If I were to review Metal Slug 7 on the DS, my tone would actually be kinder, although the score would be the same. For non-PSP owners, it's the only decent way to get any portable Slug action, and that's actually worth something. (even though the PSP port is superior)

//Zig


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Author: randxian
Posted: March 14, 2010 (01:24 PM)
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ride inside all-too-scarce vehicles,

Ironically enough, one of the most popular, if not the most popular shooting franchise - Contra - doesn't even have any vehicles. To me, scarce vehicles are better than no vehicles.

I'm not saying I hate Contra for that reason, but it seems a bit odd to knock a game for having only a few vehicles while another franchise gets a free pass for never including this feature.

Beyond that, I agree that the difficulty ramps up too quickly. This wouldn't be so bad if you didn't lose credit for saving hostages once you bite the dust.


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Author: zigfried (Mod)
Posted: March 14, 2010 (01:33 PM)
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Most Metal Slug games use vehicles to add variety, whereas Contra adds variety in other ways. Metal Slug's vehicles also make it easier to shoot diagonally... so in that sense, riding a vehicle is the best way to accomplish what people can always do in Contra. So it's not that Contra gets a free pass; Contra is usually built in such a way that vehicles aren't needed.

Speaking of variety, Metal Slug 3 was so crazy that I don't even think of the vehicles when I think of key moments. Therefore, the game must have been awesome.

//Zig


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Author: randxian
Posted: March 14, 2010 (03:42 PM)
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I realize that was only one little snippet in your review, but wouldn't a better way to approach this lie in critiquing MS for not allowing you to shoot diagnally at all times?

That's one of two things that irritate me the most about the MS series. The other being how so many enemies are behind "cover", yet their bullets pass through said cover. It's also sometimes hard to tell what pieces of the environment are interactive - for cover and to jump on - and what is just decoration, unless you have the level completely memorized.


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