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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (01:46 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
34 (or at least 20 years younger than EmP would tell you)
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (01:53 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Using that last clause, you're still far too low a number.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (01:54 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I had a feeling you were an old fart like me -- unless you just baited me into revealing how ancient I am. :
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (02:04 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's not that I'm unhappy with HG. I think my thoughts are much like Jason's: I'm tired of all this negativity, and I feel outnumbered in the sense that I'm generally far more forgiving towards certain games than many of the other regulars here. (How do you think all these mainstream jokes started?)
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (02:29 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The jump in technology from the last generation to the current generation hasn't been as big as in past generations. The best PS2/Xbox games could stand in for PS3/360 games graphics-wise. Not even the Wii's motion sensory gimmick has changed how we play games in general. You still play the majority of games with a pad. You will shoot things in shooters. You still take turns in turn-based RPGs. The gap from this current generation to the next generation will likely be the same as the past gap. We'll see new innovations, but most changes won't be colossal.
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Author: Masters (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (02:32 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's a tough balance Suskie. I don't know that I've figured it out. For example, I gave Super Metroid a 10 cuz at the time I thought it was a 10. I don't think it is now, having subsequently played Symphony of the Night. So if I had played them in the reverse order, what then? Super Metroid would get a 7, and would get a paltry few lines about how it did the genre well before SOTN came along and bettered it in every way. I don't know that this can be helped.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (02:36 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
When was the first time you played either of those games, Felix? Be honest.
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (02:38 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
SM64, Christmas day 1996. Final Fantasy VII . . . sometime in 2003 I guess. I played both last year and would be happy to play them now (assuming I had them in front of me to play rather than being on my shelf back home). Why? What's your point?
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (02:39 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
To be fair, when's the last time you saw a recent FFVII or SM64 10/10 review?
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (02:45 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
My point, Felix, was stated in my other post: Anyone who would play Super Mario 64 for the first time today probably wouldn't like it so much because so many other 3D platformers have come along and improved upon it. You don't have that perspective: You played it in 1996, when it was new, exciting and fresh. That's how you remember it, and that's what you still think of it today.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (03:02 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Are you really going to use the GFAQs review base as a creditable example?
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (04:07 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think I've made my point pretty clear, and that's obviously not what I'm saying. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (04:10 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
That doesn't sound like something I would do at all.
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (04:20 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm glad you like it, EmP. I'm finally ready to call you Gary.
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Author: dagoss
Posted: June 02, 2008 (04:28 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm not sure that it really matters what score one gives a non-current generation game (or that anyone really cares what I think).
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Author: Genj
Posted: June 02, 2008 (04:32 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (04:40 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's weird how we all love arguing so much, and yet it's become so clear that we'll never wind up changing each other's minds on anything. I wonder why we even bother, but hey, that's us.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 02, 2008 (05:35 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think what Masters said was perhaps the most accurate (well, except for the 2/10 Bionic Commando part....while I read that, I pretended he accidentally left out the extra "1" to make it 12/10).
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Author: bluberry
Posted: June 02, 2008 (06:15 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
in the interest of contributing nothing to this discussion, I'm curious what 3D platformers you think improved on Mario 64, Suskie. I don't think I've played one that's as good, but maybe I'm missing out. I think a lot of these games get bogged down in fetch quests, like OD mentioned, and I thought Mario 64 avoided them better than any other platformer from the last decade or so.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (06:26 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, I suppose we could argue all we want about which 3D platformers have the best design and we wouldn't go anywhere, but in terms of mechanics, games like Banjo-Kazooie, Rayman 2, Conker, and Super Mario Galaxy (we'll leave Sunshine out of this, that's just asking for trouble) were all better-playing games than SM64, which only makes sense since SM64 was the first of its genre, and all the others were based on the same idea. If you were broad enough, you could even include games like Jak and Ratchet, since they qualify as platformers. Hell, even Donkey Kong 64 (which a lot of people hated) was smoother, and handled its 3D camera system better.
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Author: bluberry
Posted: June 02, 2008 (06:32 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
ew, DK64. Mario 64 way better level design, some of the best... Rayman 2 was a great game though, you're right on that one. though I liked the original even more, even if it was almost too hard.
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: June 02, 2008 (06:33 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Ristar's a cool game. Masters' review for it is awesome.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: June 02, 2008 (06:35 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Worry not, I spoke only of DK64's play control and mentioned nothing of design. I seem to be among the minority of people who enjoyed DK64, but SM64 is definitely better.
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Author: Halon
Posted: June 02, 2008 (06:36 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
No one is allowed to review Ristar and give it lower than 10/10.
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Author: Halon
Posted: June 02, 2008 (06:41 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
And about the topic... I'm not going to contribute to it because it comes up every six months or so and pretty much everyone here knows when I stand on the issue.
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