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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 30, 2009 (12:17 AM)
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I've only got enough energy left in me tonight to review your first paragraph. Sorry. More to come later. Changes are in bold.

"Hoosier City isn't the first series to surprise me with a strong start, only the first to surprise me by falling off so quickly."

The next sentence, "This goes for games or books," isn't needed, as it doesn't add anything and in fact muddles us as to your reviewing medium.

"Other series have gone downhill. Leisure Suit Larry, for instance, dumbed down the jokes and got cruder. The Harry Potter books refused to shut up. But HC3 deserves a special shame in that it moved away from the flippancy that made it more successful. HC3 goes south in a misguided attempt to bring the shareware series to a bang-pow conclusion."

This whole bit confuses me a bit. I can't tell if you're pointing out things about other series that made them worse, or made them better. You need some sort of modifiers, like the ones I've added. Even then, some things remain confusing. Probably the biggest complaint is that I'm not sure why HC3's move away from flippancy is a worse shame than the others you've mentioned.

"It's just mean to the player. And beyond a couch being on fire in your inexplicably mazy three-screen castle, there's no corny joke to be seen, or even told by a prisoner."

Again, I'm not sure how a couch being on fire constitutes a joke or what you're referencing by a corny joke told by a prisoner. Are these references to the first game?


Note to gamers: when someone shoots you in the face, they aren't "gay." They are "psychopathic."


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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 30, 2009 (12:49 AM)
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As the review stands some knowledge of what came before is probably needed. The first game (as reviewed here ZOMG read NOW!!!) was a nice little action romp, collect weapons and items, slaughter enemies, hilarious in how it deliberately tosses different themes together so that you end up fighting orcs, a dragon, a berserk automatic tank and penguins in a game taking place in a large nuclear shelter.

Then come Hoosier City 2 and 3, which apart from using the same engine are nothing alike. The games are much shorter, all kinds of weapons are missing, you can often break the sequence and skip parts of the game entirely due to sloppy coding, and combat has become impossible by placing powerful enemies in your path when you have nothing to combat them with. Andrew mentions it's better to just run away from monsters here - it was true in HC2 already. And to top it off, the two games together are shorter than the first game in its entirety once you do know where to go.

Especially given the original business model in which HC1 is shareware and the other two episodes commercial, we got surprisingly little justified outrage on this piece. Just wait until I get my hands dirty with it.


''Yes, yes...but apart from all that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?''


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Author: aschultz
Posted: June 30, 2009 (07:37 AM)
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Thanks both of you for the suggested edits. They're not in but should be. I just sort of tossed this off before I left work, as the game had left me in a crummy mood, and besides, I needed an H for the alphabetolympics. Perhaps I needed to weave in a bit more of the series. I thought I proofread it...I figured I had to keep the review short, too. Also I was thinking of how to write a game for a series. I thought this would be low risk, and apparently it's good it's a short game, as a bigger game review might've had more mistakes.

PS I just think couches on fire in games are funny. And it's the sort of thing the game gets away with earlier...and as for walking off the screen, HC3 cranks its necessity up to 11. In HC2 it's tolerable but with HC3 it's more frequent and with deadlier monsters.


My principal said, 'Emo, Emo, Emo.'
I said 'I'm the one in the middle, you lousy drunk!'
-- Emo Phillips


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Author: sashanan
Posted: July 03, 2009 (01:31 PM)
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...my goodness. Having just finished it myself I see your 1/10 is well justified. You know something is dreadfully wrong when a game makes Hoosier City 2 look good.

This whole episode 2&3 thing has been one major disillusion. Hoosier City 1 is fun for crying out loud. It is even nostalgic to me as the first game I ever wrote anything resembling a FAQ on (for personal use, when I was like 14, maybe 15, long before I had net access). How could they have sunk so low?


''Yes, yes...but apart from all that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?''


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Author: aschultz
Posted: July 03, 2009 (02:33 PM)
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Well, at least you know you weren't really missing anything all these years!

As for me, I still don't want to have to replay the game in my mind enough to edit my review. Brr.

Update: I think playing that game made me dumber, based on how my review read. But it is updated. As easy as the game seems to slam, it took a lot of effort to.


My principal said, 'Emo, Emo, Emo.'
I said 'I'm the one in the middle, you lousy drunk!'
-- Emo Phillips


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