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Author: radicaldreamer
Posted: June 23, 2009 (12:21 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I don't know about this. I saw the 1, but the description of the game actually makes it sound kind of good. Overall I feel like this is more of an editorial about the business practices used to market and sell the game rather than a review of the game itself.
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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 23, 2009 (12:38 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Given that drella states at several points what he did enjoy about the game, the 1 does seem to be aimed more at making a point about a business model than to actually describe the game.
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Author: jerec
Posted: June 23, 2009 (12:51 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'll be passing on this one. If they release it all as one package further down the line at a reasonable cost, then maybe.
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Author: drella
Posted: June 23, 2009 (06:01 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Excellent points Sashanan. I addressed the pricing question. I'm not really sure if the six-hours represents exactly 1/10 of the game... I do believe the successive installments are shorter, but just because exposition takes longer to get going doesn't really make it "more" of the game, especially with chapter style releases of an RPG. In other words, as far as understanding and cohesiveness of the plot, I think this does represent 1/10, if it doesn't agree length wise.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 23, 2009 (05:20 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I hate to get down on a Drella review so shortly after his return to the site, but I have to say I'm not so hot on this one. The writing style is fantastic and emotional as usual... though I didn't like this sentence:
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Author: zigfried
Posted: June 23, 2009 (05:36 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
There's already a way to sample games for a cheap price to find out if they're worthwhile: demos.
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Author: drella
Posted: June 23, 2009 (06:11 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
"I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Do you mean that they haven't changed the original design of the dungeon?"
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: June 23, 2009 (06:20 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Final Fantasy IV: The Early Years was originally released as an episodic series of downloads for the cell phone platform, where that sort of approach made sense. This leads to the obvious question: why weren't all of the episodes then compiled and put on a single disc to sell on Wii?
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Author: jerec
Posted: June 23, 2009 (06:45 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think this game could have worked if all parts were put on one DS card and released as a single game. I'm hoping they do that, since I am a little interested in playing it. Already got FFIV for DS...
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Author: randxian
Posted: June 27, 2009 (05:04 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
The points made in this review is exactly why I no longer buy Square products. Final Fantasy has gone from an innovative NES RPG with great graphics, music, different classes to experiment with, to a big bloated mess it is today.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 27, 2009 (05:18 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I disagree with such a blanket statement. I think FFX and FFXII were both great games (though I dislike XII's story). And XIII looks incredible.
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Author: randxian
Posted: June 28, 2009 (01:28 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Okay, to be fair, I did enjoy FF 12 from what I played of it.
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Author: bigcj34
Posted: June 28, 2009 (02:01 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's something of a surprise that Square have done everything BUT remake the game that fans generally want to see remade, and that's FFVII. Each of the 8-bit and 16-bit series has seen various reincarnations, FFIV being just an example. Even FFVII has had plenty of spin-offs but only this month have we seen a re-release on PSN.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 28, 2009 (02:28 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I thought it was a commonly accepted fact that FF12 was absolute rubbish.
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Author: overdrive (Mod)
Posted: June 28, 2009 (04:21 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Nah, I gave it a 7 or so. So not universally hated. Overrated, but not hated.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 28, 2009 (11:46 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
FFXII is liked by quite a lot of people, more than I expected. I personally don't favour it, but I did beat it, which is more than I can say for FFVIII. Actually, FFVIII remains the only one of the FF games in the main continium that I haven't beaten.
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Author: sashanan
Posted: June 28, 2009 (11:51 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Almost likewise - for me it's VIII and XII both. I had a lot more to do than that half a year ago but over the first half of 2009 I polished off III, V and VI in short order. VI was intensely satisfying, bugger had been taunting me since 1999.
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Author: jerec
Posted: June 29, 2009 (12:08 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You can pinpoint the exact moment FFXII goes bad, and it has to do with Moogles and a gate.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 29, 2009 (08:58 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You can pinpoint the moment FFXII starts to show a glimmer fo promise; it's when Vann finally shuts the hell up.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: June 29, 2009 (10:05 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
What FFXII does right is that it has a very rich and varied world which is genuinely fun to explore. The hunting of monsters is fun as well, and requires careful tailoring of your gambits which is a very unexpected introduction of gameplay and strategy in a system which could easily turn into "grab a book and sandwich." The characters are good starting points, the problem with the game lies in that they undergo little or no change in 100+ hours of gameplay. Similarly, the story is extremely underdeveloped, but very rich in its foundation. I'm shocked more wasn't done with all the things they'd established.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: June 29, 2009 (10:11 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Never disagreed with anything you've ever said more. And you're Zipp!
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Author: randxian
Posted: June 29, 2009 (04:42 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Oh, and is anyone else bothered by the fact in the intro you see some flying vehicles that look like something out of Star Wars, yet all the ground untits use swords, spears, and bows?
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