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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: March 13, 2009 (07:57 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Awesome work. I won't be firing you this week.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 13, 2009 (08:45 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Thanks, love. Though, as a freelancer, I don't think you have the power to do that anyway. AHA!
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Author: dementedhut
Posted: March 13, 2009 (09:12 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Freelancer? I thought EmP was staff.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 13, 2009 (09:18 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I meant *I'm* a freelancer.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: March 13, 2009 (09:32 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hell, I could probably fire Venter if I wanted to. The only reason this site isn't called EmPGamers is because there's too many caps in there.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 13, 2009 (11:24 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
EMP: go back to your spawning pit
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: March 13, 2009 (11:34 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think that if Lew tried to make his reviews more about him, he would lose that aspect that I probably enjoy the most from this. This review especially is one much more suited for for Lewis' more artistic analysis than, say, my style of mock-heavy and more personal rambling.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 13, 2009 (02:52 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Serious games means serious business. Lightheartedness would have seemed a cop-out when discussing a game that deals with such intense subject matters.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: March 13, 2009 (04:13 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It's very important to find the tone that matches the subject matter and/or your stance on a given game. I think that Lewis does a good job with that and it's one thing I appreciate about his writing. Not every review needs to communicate a sense of the reviewer's personality, which is something most casual visitors don't even care about. I know I talk about myself in a lot of my more recent reviews, but mostly that's to serve the purpose of establishing my own perspective on the game so that the reader can identify with me or say "Hmm, this guy doesn't look for the same things in games that I do." I'd hate to see writers trying to include personal anecdotes just because it's the popular thing to do.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: March 13, 2009 (05:54 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Yeah. This is a really good review. To me, the analytical and personal elements blend wonderfully. The personal aspects aren't lighthearted - and for this, they really shouldn't be - but that doesn't mean they're there, and he utilizes them to emphasize his analytical points.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 13, 2009 (10:26 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Maybe you miss what I mean when I say "personal touch." I'm not talking about snarkiness or bad jokes, I'm talking about a sense of personal style. I rarely get that from your reviews. They're always extremely well written. And seriously, you're one of my favourite reviewers on the site. Please, PLEASE, don't add jokes to this review, or any other serious review. I just want to see you develop your style a bit. That's all. It should come naturally, anyway, if you keep writing.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 14, 2009 (01:29 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've been reading a lot of Jim Rossignol's work lately. Perhaps he's seeping his way into my own style...
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Author: bloomer
Posted: March 14, 2009 (02:07 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Hm, I don't understand these 'lack of personal style' comments at all. I find Lewis' reviews supremely Lewisy. Opinion as articulately conveyed as this strikes me as unavoidably, transparently personal. I mean it's not like you could even fob it off by waving a pointed stick around.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 14, 2009 (04:11 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think my style is perhaps generally less colloquial than a lot of writers here. It's not that I think either is better, or anything. I just generally write with a bit more formality than a lot of people, I think. Hopefully my work remains interesting.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 14, 2009 (05:47 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think what you have is a developing voice, Lewis. It's strong, but it's not fully there yet. It can only get better with time. You're well on your way to being a s†and out writer.
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: March 14, 2009 (06:12 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Lewis does have his own style. I don't know what you're talking about. His analytical style is greatly different from anyone else's around here. His reviews don't read like Bloomer's or Masters' or whoever else employs the method. They're separate, different and unique. Just like those other guys' reviews are separate, different and unique.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 15, 2009 (12:48 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
You know what I like about Lewis? Everyone else argued with me over whether my point was valid or not. But Lewis simply looked at my advice, took it for what it was worth, and stored it away for further use/perusal/discarding at his leisure. I respect that. I respect you quite a lot, Lewis.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 15, 2009 (01:26 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I hope I am still developing a voice, improving my talent. The minute that stops being the case is the minute I stop writing. Never stagnate; never become complacent.
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Author: bloomer
Posted: March 15, 2009 (03:20 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Zigfried and I were writing reviews when some of you were stumbling toddlers! And we have both changed our minds 10,000 times about everything in the decade+ since then. So in conclusion... Lewis has the right attitude to ongoing development, and Zigfried and I rock.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 15, 2009 (03:36 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I am but a child, relatively. That I've been writing about games since I was fifteen is neither here nor there. Nobody's a good writer at fifteen.
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Author: EmP (Mod)
Posted: March 15, 2009 (04:14 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I was first published at fifteen. True story.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: March 15, 2009 (04:33 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
If you count school newspapers, I was first pulished at age 7. I wrote a short story of about 300 words and my teacher liked it so much that she got it put in the school newspaper. Looking back, I wish I had taken the time to gloat. Mine was the only one selected for that esteemed honor... :-D
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Author: wolfqueen001
Posted: March 15, 2009 (10:24 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I never said you weren't still developing a voice - everyone's still doing that, really; though some to a lesser extent than others since it develops more slowly as you get better. But the notion that you don't have one at all - which Zipp seemed to suggest - is ridiculous.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: March 15, 2009 (11:03 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I'm not going to discuss my commeny any further. It was meant for Lewis, and if he needs clarification on it, I'll be happy to give it to him.
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