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Author: Suskie
Posted: January 30, 2009 (08:45 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Well, this review is interesting, to say the least.
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Author: Halon
Posted: January 30, 2009 (09:53 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I agree with Suskie's complaints and actually originally began making a topic of my own when the review was first written but got distracted by something and never went back to it.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: January 30, 2009 (10:42 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Very interesting indeed. So:
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Author: dementedhut
Posted: January 30, 2009 (11:51 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Reviews aren't opinion pieces? When did this happen?
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Author: drella
Posted: February 01, 2009 (08:03 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I like this review for opening the discussion. That's what it does, if nothing else.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: February 01, 2009 (08:53 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
This whole "objectivity" argument came up recently in a different post and you might think I'm eating my words and applying it to this review, but one thing a bash review shouldn't do is make me curious as to why the reviewer was playing the game in the first place. In a series that has already been established as a WWII shooter, and in a gaming culture with an increasing emphasis on the all-important realism... well, what was HMD expecting? And on that note, if he finds the content objectionable, can he really blame Treyarch for that? If I were to write a WaW review that attacked the game's excessive gore and awarded it a 1/10 as a result, people would probably scoff at me. I don't see how this is any different.
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Author: Felix_Arabia
Posted: February 01, 2009 (09:34 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I've played and reviewed World at War. I think HMD's point on racism in the game, while it is present, is somewhat exaggerated. As far as I can remember, it's relegated to American GIs shouting "Tojo's behind those trees!" and "There's another Jap down!" as they fight across islands. It's unfortunate that things were like that back then, but that's how they were. Interestingly enough, Treyarch decided not to have any Japanese utter the equally racist term "white devil," but maybe that's because there wasn't enough time spent conversing with the enemy during the course of the campaign for one of them to insult an American GI that way.
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Author: Halon
Posted: February 01, 2009 (09:42 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I think the point Sportsman misses is that yes, World War II was an ugly. war. This type of stereotyping and racism and jingoism was abound. It's all true.
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Author: honestgamer
Posted: February 01, 2009 (12:04 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
People have been making similar arguments about entertainment since the days of "Huckleberry Finn," and that will never end. A lot of folks--though certainly not all--are now quick to justify that novel as above reproach, but remember that when it was written it was written to sell copies and make money. Similarly, Call of Duty: World at War is an entertainment product that was created to make money but may eventually be remembered within the video game industry for its other achievements (or lack thereof).
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Author: JANUS2
Posted: February 01, 2009 (12:06 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
On the question of whether racist slurs should make their way into entertainment, I think that it's a danger to subdue or ignore racism when representing an historical period where it was very pervasive. Obviously games should be careful not to glorify these attitudes, but nor should we forget how racially divided the world was. Otherwise historic movement against this (Civil Rights, etc.) start to lose their impact.
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Author: bluberry
Posted: February 05, 2009 (06:50 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
i like how you left in a huff but actually had nothing better to do then keep popping in anyway. way to stick to your principles there buddy boy.
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Author: Suskie
Posted: February 05, 2009 (07:27 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Aw, Boo thinks he intimidates me. That's cute.
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Author: zippdementia
Posted: February 06, 2009 (01:39 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I like that Suskie's back... he adds a lot to a discussion.
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Author: Lewis
Posted: February 06, 2009 (02:03 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
What an entirely unnecessary comment, Bluberry.
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Author: WilltheGreat
Posted: February 07, 2009 (11:13 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
I like how boo has nothing better to do than heckle people on the forums. Way to contribute to the site there buddy boy.
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Author: hmd
Posted: March 15, 2009 (10:59 PM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
best post of the thread
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Author: Lewis
Posted: March 16, 2009 (01:34 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
Aw it's gone. I wanna know what it said!
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Author: Suskie
Posted: March 16, 2009 (02:02 AM) Actions: Register for a free user account to post on the forums... |
It was just a remarkably long spam.
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